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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:20 AM Feb 2014

Are Democrats who Propose Cuts to Social Security “Stupid” or Just Doing Risk-Analysis?

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/02/gaius-publius-democrats-propose-cuts-social-security-stupid-just-risk-analysis.html

Which brings us to why the Rubins and the Clintons and the Obamas — and whoever is financing campaigns for the Alex Sinks of the world — are apparently willing to look “stupid” to make these destructive neoliberal, unpopular, anti-populist proposals. If I’m Robert Rubin or someone in his position (there are many), I’d figure it like this:

If the Republicans offer “free markets” and racism, and I offer “free markets” and far friendlier social politics, I can still win the White House most of the time. (The White House is where the power and money are, money I can dole out to my friends via gifts and appointments.)

So whenever someone in my base says, “But wait … I don’t want the billionaires and bankers to win and skate free. I don’t want bailouts and “free trade” agreements. I don’t want benefit cuts. Also, jobs!” — I immediately reply, “Really? So you want Chris Christie? Mitt Romney? Rush Limbaugh to run the country? You just had Bush because you messed up and weren’t loyal enough.”


“Line up, son, or take the blame,” they say. And they mean it. And in fact, most do line up; daughters and sons alike. Some do not, of course, and some just stay home, bored and sick with the lack of real choice. Sure that diminishes the Democratic vote total, but if they win the White House by +3% instead of +10%, so what? They still win.

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So that’s the calculation, and it’s based on, yes, triangulation and the squeeze play. They triangulate and the base gets squeezed. True, there’s a slightly greater risk of losing the White House than if they propose truly progressive, truly popular policies. But there’s no price to them personally for losing, and they’ll win most of the time anyway, especially in this era of shifting demographics. It’s a relatively low-risk, high-reward strategy, based on this calculation.If the Republicans offer “free markets” and racism, and I offer “free markets” and far friendlier social politics, I can still win the White House most of the time. (The White House is where the power and money are, money I can dole out to my friends via gifts and appointments.)

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Are Democrats who Propose Cuts to Social Security “Stupid” or Just Doing Risk-Analysis? (Original Post) antigop Feb 2014 OP
Neither. They are Republicans. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #1
Beat me to it. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #2
Yep. Moles Doctor_J Feb 2014 #4
Dino. Democrat in name only. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #3
Whatever. What is clear is that they are not progressives. bemildred Feb 2014 #5
Perhaps, if one finds starving grandma entertaining! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #6
Yes, of course, that's it. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #7
This is how the game moves continuously to the right yurbud Feb 2014 #8
Yep. nt antigop Feb 2014 #9
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
1. Neither. They are Republicans.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:15 PM
Feb 2014

Any cuts or suggestion of cuts to SS by a Dem only helps the Republican Party.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
2. Beat me to it.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:43 PM
Feb 2014

Democrats should be advocating lowering the retirement age, the Medicare eligibility age, and increasing benefits.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Yep. Moles
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe we should face facts. The president (together with others mentioned in the article) has embraced Heritage/Gingrinch/Romneycare, drone murder, "Clean Coal", KXL, TPP, Race To The Bottom, charter schools vs. public schools, and SS/Medicare benefit cuts. What do these things have in common? They're all Republican ideas.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. Dino. Democrat in name only.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:07 AM
Feb 2014

Third Way, DLC. They come in a variety of names, mostly designed to hide their true identity.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. Whatever. What is clear is that they are not progressives.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:12 PM
Feb 2014

Speculating about their motives and how they rationalize their deceptions to themselves is just entertainment.

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