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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:19 AM Jan 2014

America's Middle Class Becomes the New Working Poor

By Frosty Wooldridge
Washington Dispatch.com

In the past ten years, American jobs screamed out of the United States at an ever-accelerating rate of speed. While American workers stood in unemployment lines, major corporations insourced, outsourced and offshored jobs to Third World countries. Why? They could obtain labor for $1.00 an hour and sometimes less. Capitalism knows no loyalty to man, beast or country.

At the high end, Congress offered hundreds of thousands of H-1B and L-1 visas that displaced 890,000 American high tech workers out of jobs while importing cheap labor from overseas.

To add insult to injury while displacing American workers--meatpacking, chicken processing, paving, construction, hotel, roofing, landscaping and other trade jobs were insourced to millions of illegal alien workers.

America's manufacturing base and ability to sell products to the world diminished with the rising power of corporations to control taxes, tariffs and commodities markets. These huge corporations, run by American CEOs, took advantage of their American roots and benefits enjoyed in a First World country - while giving millions of jobs to people in other countries. For what? Obscene profits! It's why you hear of their $125 million annual paychecks. They are the Ken Lays of Enron crowd who don't get caught. Why not? Because what they do is legal, but then again, they paid enough money into Political Action Committees and other organizations to make sure they gained tax breaks and other benefits from Congress.

It's a hell of a rich man's club, but it's turning America's Middle Class into the Working Poor Class.


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America's Middle Class Becomes the New Working Poor (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2014 OP
Hillary Clinton reaffirms support for more H-1B visas antigop Jan 2014 #1
Hillary touts "advantages" of outsourcing of US jobs antigop Jan 2014 #2
It's not only capitalism which knows no loyalty to its fellow man bossy22 Jan 2014 #3
Pretty damn close Doctor_J Jan 2014 #4
Not close enough bossy22 Jan 2014 #5

antigop

(12,778 posts)
1. Hillary Clinton reaffirms support for more H-1B visas
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jan 2014


From the article:
"At the high end, Congress offered hundreds of thousands of H-1B and L-1 visas that displaced 890,000 American high tech workers out of jobs while importing cheap labor from overseas."

eta: still waiting for HRC to explain what, exactly, laid-off engineers and IT people are supposed to train for after their jobs are replaced by h-1b visa holders or sent overseas.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
2. Hillary touts "advantages" of outsourcing of US jobs
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jan 2014
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ndtv-exclusive-hillary-clinton-on-fdi-mamata-outsourcing-and-hafiz-saeed-full-transcript-207593

Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.


The "advantages" go to the CEOs and stockholders, not the working stiffs.

Still waiting for her to tell us what, exactly, laid-off engineers and IT people are supposed to train for after their jobs are outsourced to India and other countries.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
3. It's not only capitalism which knows no loyalty to its fellow man
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

it's humanity in general. By nature we are all selfish to some degree- like all other living things on this planet. The only thing capitalism is really guilty of is accepting human nature.

As for trading wages for obscene profits- well the data doesn't completely support that


while corporate profits are at an all time the trend does not directly follow the hourly wages trend


Wages decreased 20 years prior to the "profit boom". With this data it's hard to see a direct connection between the two

The timeline for wage trends follows the trend of outsourcing, which started in the late 1970's. Outsourcing was not done to necessarily "bring in huge profits" but to actually protect current profits. Essentially it was seen as a corporate necessity- something that had to be done in order to compete with others companies. I don't like it, but it's a reality based on our laws of economics. Companies/corporations that don't make "profits" (I use quotations because in the non-profit world it's called Net Income) over the long run don't survive. Companies that have lower profit margins to their peers are at a severe disadvantage and often will either shrink or disappear entirely.

Sadly, there is very little that domestic policymakers can do to change this. Our economy is coming under global influences- influences that are out of our control. Unless you start instituting massive tariffs and instituting laws requiring 100% (or close to) of goods and services sold in the U.S. to be of U.S. origin (As well as sold by U.S. companies), we are pretty much in the passenger seat. This situation can be helped by a global policy, but that would require many third world nations (who actually benefit from outsourcing) to go against their best interest.

It all comes back to our nature. We are generally selfish. There are limited resources and we are all trying to get the most we can.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Pretty damn close
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:14 PM
Jan 2014

except for the Clinton Tech Boom, since 1980 the negative correlation is pretty stark.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
5. Not close enough
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jan 2014

reduction of wages is a cost cutting measure that shows its effects on profits in the short term as well as the long term.

The fact is that only in the last 10 years did a significant historical increase happen. You can make an argument that this increase was caused significantly by the rise of the BRIC (barzil, russia, india, China) economies.

I'm not saying that reduction in wages had nothing to play in this- it did. I'm saying there are other things going on here other than plain old greed.

On edit: either you attack this problem on a global scale or you don't do it at all. It's like antibiotics- either you take the full course or you don't take them at all- taking only half the pills often makes the infection worse.

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