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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:08 PM Oct 2013

If You Distrust Vaccines, You're More Likely to Think NASA Faked the Moon Landings And...

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/10/vaccine-denial-conspiracy-theories-gmos-climate

"Do you believe that a covert group called the New World Order is planning to take over the planet and impose a single world government?

Do you think the moon landings were staged in a Hollywood studio?

What about 9/11—do you suspect the US government deliberately allowed the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks to happen in order to concoct an excuse for war?

If you believe these sorts of things, you're a conspiracy theorist. That much goes without saying. But according to new research, if you believe these sorts of things, you are also more likely to be skeptical of what scientists have to say on three separate issues: vaccinations, genetically modified foods, and climate change.

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If You Distrust Vaccines, You're More Likely to Think NASA Faked the Moon Landings And... (Original Post) HuckleB Oct 2013 OP
But, but... MyshkinCommaPrince Oct 2013 #1
I don't trust vaccines Politicalboi Oct 2013 #2
Facepalm. HuckleB Oct 2013 #4
How about one in four? I see no reason to immunize against everything when the best ..... marble falls Oct 2013 #6
Uh, are you serious? HuckleB Oct 2013 #8
Why do I need a typus shot? ........ marble falls Oct 2013 #9
Why do you need what? HuckleB Oct 2013 #10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014643048 marble falls Nov 2013 #14
Still pushing anecdotes in an attempt to promote illness, I see. HuckleB Nov 2013 #15
If mother's milk... Nitram Oct 2013 #12
+1 HuckleB Oct 2013 #13
I had an assistant (who wanted to be an RN, mind you) who was an antivaxer and kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #3
Raising Arizona. HuckleB Oct 2013 #7
I read this article in MJ a month ago and made some posts on it. Rozlee Oct 2013 #5
Crank magnetism strikes again. JoeyT Oct 2013 #11
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. I don't trust vaccines
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

And I believe we've been to the moon. I believe in global warming. I believe JFK was killed by others than Lee Harvey Oswald, and I KNOW 9/11 was an inside job. 2 out of 4 ain't bad.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
6. How about one in four? I see no reason to immunize against everything when the best .....
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
Oct 2013

immunity is from mother's milk and being exposed to normal amounts of dirt when young. And forgoing all the hand sanitizer being foisted on us.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
9. Why do I need a typus shot? ........
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:18 PM
Oct 2013
http://shetoldme.com/Health/Top-6-Natural-Immunity-Builders-for-Kids

http://healthwatch.typepad.com/healthy-again/2013/01/antibacterial-products-destroy-your-immune-system.html

I am not against all immunizations. When our baby sitter got pregnant during a measles outbreak, out kids were immunized to protect her fetus from harm. Otherwise the kids would have maybe gotten measles.

One of these days go on the internet and look up the government registry of defective immunizations. When I took my daughter for her first immunizations we given a document to sign releasing him from damages in case of a problem with the TPD shot. The bill was for $130.00 (in 1986) $30.00 for the shot - $100.00 for insurance in case there was a bad reaction.

When Cholera breaks out I will get an immunization. I has chicken pox as a kid - I got the shingles immunization. I don't get the flu shots because the shot available isn't always the strain that shows up and at 63 I've had the flu once, when I was 35 and was turned away from the hospital because too many flu patients got there before me.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
10. Why do you need what?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:31 PM
Oct 2013

BTW, pushing bad science BS is not cool.

The Internet is filled with it. That's doesn't make it ok.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
12. If mother's milk...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:53 AM
Oct 2013

...was the best immunity, why was smallpox such a scourge before Pasteur came up with the vaccination? In an era when every child was breast-fed? At least TRY to be objective...

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. I had an assistant (who wanted to be an RN, mind you) who was an antivaxer and
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:02 PM
Oct 2013

also thought the moon landings were all faked.

She's young and actually really smart, but GAWD she had her mind made up on some weird shit.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
5. I read this article in MJ a month ago and made some posts on it.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

The anti-vaxers are free to believe what they want and so am I. As I stated in my posts, I believe we've become complacent because vaccines have wiped out our greatest scourges and we no longer know the horror that was 300 million people dying of smallpox in the 20th century, 2 million in 1967 alone. In the last two generations, we never saw the children crippled with Polio and having to be placed in Iron Lungs. We've never seen epidemics of Diphtheria that used to decimate families because they no longer occur with vaccinations. I remember my mother telling me about her 4 young siblings that died from the Spanish Flu and I hear people say that they eat right and live right and have never gotten a cold in years, so why should they vaccinate for the flu? The Spanish flu and many sub-types of influenza precipitate a cytokine storm that specifically targets the young and healthy and turns their robust immune systems against them via a positive feedback loop. Which is why the 2009 Swine Flu and the Spanish Flu infected mostly the young and healthy. There was a time when infectious diseases were our number one killer. Now, they're up to number nine and ten in pneumonia and flu in the elderly. People just forget how horrific infectious diseases were because in their lives, they've never lived through epidemics of them. They can afford to be complacent and dismissive about those diseases now and tell themselves that the world's aggressive vaccination program didn't have a hand in it.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
11. Crank magnetism strikes again.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:39 AM
Oct 2013

I've always wondered if it was a chicken or egg deal. If the people that were more likely to believe in conspiracies were just more likely to latch onto conspiracies, or if believing in conspiracies put you around others that believed in conspiracies, allowing them to propagate. Or more likely some combination of the two.

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