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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:44 AM Oct 2013

NORM SOLOMON: Google quietly joins ALEC

Roots Action has a petition to tell Google and other internet firms to get out.
In the mean time, can anyone suggest some OTHER search engines to use instead of Google?

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Quietly, Google has joined ALEC -- the American Legislative Exchange Council -- the shadowy corporate alliance that pushes odious laws through state legislatures.

In the process, Google has signed onto an organization that promotes such regressive measures as tax cuts for tobacco companies, school privatization to help for-profit education firms, repeal of state taxes for the wealthy and opposition to renewable energy disliked by oil companies.

ALEC’s reactionary efforts -- thoroughly documented by the Center for Media and Democracy -- are shameful assaults on democratic principles. And Google is now among the hundreds of companies in ALEC. Many people who’ve admired Google are now wondering: how could this be?

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McChesney adds: “Any qualms about privacy, commercialism, avoiding taxes, or paying low wages to Third World factory workers were quickly forgotten. It is not that the managers are particularly bad and greedy people -- indeed their individual moral makeup is mostly irrelevant -- but rather that the system sharply rewards some types of behavior and penalizes other types of behavior so that people either get with the program and internalize the necessary values or they fail.”

http://www.normansolomon.com/norman_solomon/2013/10/google-doing-evil-with-alec.html
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NORM SOLOMON: Google quietly joins ALEC (Original Post) yurbud Oct 2013 OP
Well, there goes my gmail. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #1
excellent. How about mail alternatives? yurbud Oct 2013 #2
I just posted that very question dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #4
Did public outcry fail? proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #5
Startpage sounds worth trying starroute Oct 2013 #13
Startpage submits your search anonymously to Google dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #14
Thank you, I'm going to check that out. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #17
K&R. proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #3
Thanks for that info. Aeroette Oct 2013 #12
k and r snagglepuss Oct 2013 #6
Maybe they're going to try to steer ALEC into being a force for good corkhead Oct 2013 #7
By putting them into a Google autonomous drive vehicle, and then running it off a cliff? Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #10
K&R 2naSalit Oct 2013 #8
Try Opera dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #15
Thanks 2naSalit Oct 2013 #18
Alt search engine: duckduckgo.com cui bono Oct 2013 #9
I use duckduckgo search engine and Opera mail. Still have work remaining to switch SDjack Oct 2013 #11
I use duckduckgo search engine for anonymous searches Vincardog Oct 2013 #26
K&R Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #16
I used to use Scroogle Scraper.. here is an article from last year Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #20
duckduckgo.com is the alternative to google 4dsc Oct 2013 #21
GET OFF GOOGLE AND ONTO DuckDuckGo duke-rules Oct 2013 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #23
Recommend jsr Oct 2013 #24
signed. recommended Bill USA Oct 2013 #25
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #27

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. Well, there goes my gmail.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:15 PM
Oct 2013

Sane alternatives to Google:
Ixquick ( total privacy is an option)
Duc duck go..sounds nutz, but it works and keeps NO records of searches
and
Startpage..".the worlds's most private search engine."
which I prefer.

StartPage gives you 100% real Google results in complete privacy.
When you search with Startpage, we remove all identifying information from your query and submit it anonymously to Google for you. We get the results and return them to you in total privacy.

https://startpage.com/

starroute

(12,977 posts)
13. Startpage sounds worth trying
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:13 PM
Oct 2013

I've tried DuckDuckGo, but it tends to give me one page of results and then a link to continue my search at Google or Bing. It's fine if you're looking for the obvious stuff but not for anything at all obscure.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. Startpage submits your search anonymously to Google
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:20 PM
Oct 2013

and is just as fast.
It keeps NO data of your visit.
I have it now as my homepage, to remind me.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
3. K&R.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:20 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.freepress.net/blog/2013/10/03/tech-titans-jump-shark

Tech Titans Jump the Shark
Amy Kroin
October 3, 2013


...Imagine if Superman paid Lex Luthor to help him stamp out kryptonite. He could rationalize the association by saying the end justified the means. But at that point he wouldn’t be Superman any longer. He would be Ethically Compromised Man.

In the last year, nearly 50 corporations — including Coca-Cola, Kraft Foods, McDonald’s, Pepsi and Wal-Mart — have left ALEC, in part because the organization came under such critical scrutiny after the Trayvon Martin shooting.

It’s time for Facebook, Google and Yelp to jump ship. Join our friends at ColorofChange.org and Sum of Us in telling these tech titans to drop their membership in ALEC.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. Try Opera
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

The browser is fast, I have it loaded and usually use it for only its email.
I am now going to open a 2nd email account on it to replace my Gmail account.

2naSalit

(86,626 posts)
18. Thanks
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:24 PM
Oct 2013

I'll try that. Problem is informing all my contacts, more pain in the hindquarters than anything but...

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
9. Alt search engine: duckduckgo.com
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:50 PM
Oct 2013

Heard about it on Thom Hartmann's show. https://duckduckgo.com/

Funny thing is, after you get your search results, if you click on the down arrow to the right of the search entry box and select something like "news" it then takes you to google's page with the news stories from your search. So... eh. Still, I use it for my first go around. I believe they don't skew your results based on your browsing history like google apparently does, so you get more variation of stories/sites on the search topic. That's what I remember Hartmann saying.


SDjack

(1,448 posts)
11. I use duckduckgo search engine and Opera mail. Still have work remaining to switch
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013

out of Google mail.

duke-rules

(4 posts)
22. GET OFF GOOGLE AND ONTO DuckDuckGo
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

DuckDuckGo is a decent search engine without all Google's bells & whistles that doesn't collect all your private info and, how should I say it, DOESN'T DO EVIL!

I still mix the two, but with this latest info on Google my wife and I will be making much, much more use of DuckDuckGo.

Hope it works for you AND me!

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