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The NSA Files (The Guardian) very helpful to dispel the label of "conspiracy theory" (Original Post) bobthedrummer Sep 2013 OP
Nothing theoretical about it. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #1
The US classififcation system (Top Level Communications 9-13-13 post) some used to hide crimes bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #2
Various Items: NSA stories around the world (by Glenn Gould 9-23-13 Comment Is Free post) n/t bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #3
PRISM's Controversial Forerunner (by Richard L. Fricker 7-11-13 Consortium News) dispel CT today bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #4
It's too bad the Guardian hasn't been more careful about sticking to reality: struggle4progress Sep 2013 #5
Except, it was worse than that and goes back farther. Octafish Sep 2013 #7
Yeah, that's what gave us the FISA court struggle4progress Sep 2013 #8
There was also the House investigation after Watergate that was disregarded, maybe... bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #9
Part of that Committee report seems to be available here: struggle4progress Sep 2013 #10
Check this Doc Film out... covers this issue from the past.. 2banon Sep 2013 #6
Remembering the Office of Strategic Influence & "role-playing" commanders bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #11
A bit more on the psychological warfare domestic front and it's commanders bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #12
I really miss Angus Mackenzie who passed away before the publication of his work SECRETS bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #13
NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users (James Ball, Bruce Schneier and bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #14
Dirty Work: The CIA in Western Europe by Philip Agee and Louis Wolf (1978) Worth the download time bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #15
The ACLU Spy Files page bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #16
Glad to see that some US whistleblowers met with Ed Snowden somewhere... bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #17
Editors on the NSA files: "What the Guardian is doing is important for democracy" (10-10-13) bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #18
NSA Files: Live updates of all developments and reaction (The Guardian) thank the editors for adding bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #19
Fresh Leak on US Spying: NSA Accessed Mexican President's Email (10-20-13 Der Spiegel article by bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #20
Some Booz Allen Hamilton links for those of you that "got it" long ago (got it= documenting crimes) bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #21
The Electronic Frontier Foundation/EFF Deeplinks blog is also a great resource (hacked or not) bobthedrummer Nov 2013 #22
NSA goes on 60 Minutes: the definitive facts behind CBS's flawed report (The Guardian) bobthedrummer Dec 2013 #23
I didn't know that SAIC is now leidos-oh well, better late than never. bobthedrummer Dec 2013 #24
Hey-this thread can be enhanced by your post, DUers. n/t bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #25
Here's a kick + news, the hacker known as Guccifer has reportedly been arrested in Romania bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #26
Recommend jsr Jan 2014 #27
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
1. Nothing theoretical about it.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 07:33 PM
Sep 2013

That's why the President's most ardent defenders have focused on the character of Greenwald and Snowden.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
2. The US classififcation system (Top Level Communications 9-13-13 post) some used to hide crimes
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

even though the use of classification to hide crimes is a crime...

The US classification system
http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-us-classification-system.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
4. PRISM's Controversial Forerunner (by Richard L. Fricker 7-11-13 Consortium News) dispel CT today
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:10 PM
Sep 2013
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/11/prisms-controversial-forerunner

Since investigative journalists are, in fact, targeted people I'll honor Danny Casolaro in this post.

Inslaw (Wikipedia entry)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

Comments are encouraged.

struggle4progress

(118,313 posts)
5. It's too bad the Guardian hasn't been more careful about sticking to reality:
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 05:10 PM
Sep 2013

the idea, for example, that the NSA collects 'nearly everything' folk do on the internet is laughable, as was Snowden's claim that he could "wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president"

That sort of hyberbole from Greenwald and friends, and the dishonest hysteria it deliberately fosters, undermines the possibility of coherent informed logical discussion about any number of very serious issues associated with the national security state, the constant dangers it poses, and the interests it actually serves



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Except, it was worse than that and goes back farther.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:25 AM
Sep 2013
NSA Spied on MLK, US Senators and Other Vietnam War Critics, Documents Show

Agency's self-proclaimed 'disreputable if not outright illegal' practices threaten civil liberties then and now, critics warn


by Jacob Chamberlain,
CommonDreams.org, staff writer, Sept. 26, 2013

NSA documents that were declassified this week show that the agency—which has come under increased scrutiny for its dragnet surveillance practices—heavily surveilled and tapped the phones of high-profile critics of the Vietnam War, including Martin Luther King Jr., Muhammad Ali, and two U.S. senators including Idaho Democrat Frank Church.

These revelations raise the obvious question: If the NSA was targeting people like Sen. Frank Church, who were in a position to oversee the NSA—is that happening now?

They were joined on the NSA's "watch list" by roughly 1,600 other prominent war critics whose overseas phone calls, telexes and cables were monitored.

While Vietnam-era spying on U.S. citizens, conducted under the codename Operation Minaret, was known at the time, the targets of this surveillance were not public until now.

The documents were forced to be declassified this week following an appeal to the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel (ISCAP) by an independent research institute, the National Security Archive.

Kevin Gosztola at FireDogLake reports Thursday, the documents, which comprise of the NSA's own multi-volume history of the agency, show that the Minaret project “employed unusual procedures.”

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/09/26-2

So, there is that.
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
9. There was also the House investigation after Watergate that was disregarded, maybe...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sep 2013

It was more extensive and explicit in calling for REFORM of the intelligence community

The Pike Committee (3-11-08)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2990965

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. Check this Doc Film out... covers this issue from the past..
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:07 PM
Sep 2013

Very interesting documentary posted on du.. history also includes excerpts from Church Committee Hearings, dealing with the National Security State as well as CIA operations which included Domestic Spying on U.S. citizens, illegal wiretapping and surveillance. Issues of keeping secrets from congress, classification information that had no business being classified, etc.

Very interesting.



The Man Nobody Knew In Search of My Father CIA Spymaster William Colby

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
11. Remembering the Office of Strategic Influence & "role-playing" commanders
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:20 PM
Sep 2013

This seems as good a time as any to recall what we, the people, have lost due to the psychological warfare of the captive MSM (full spectrum dominance, baby).

Here's a November 27th, 2002 press release from Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting
The Office of Strategic Influence Is Gone, But Are Its Programs In Place?
http://fair.org/press-release/the-office-of-strategic-influence-is-gone-but-are-its-programs-in-place

General Hayden's Glass House (7-21-2013 Consortium News post by Ray McGovern)
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/21/gen-haydens-glass-house

Psychological warfare is illegal in the USA, on paper.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
12. A bit more on the psychological warfare domestic front and it's commanders
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 02:24 PM
Sep 2013

Here's some news from a couple of days ago

Cybercom Activates National Mission Force Headquarters (by Cheryl Pellerin American Forces Press Service DoD 9-25-13 post)
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=120854

During the BUSH/CHENEY regime there was Donald Henry RUMSFELD's "transformations...and visions". One of them was the former USAF Space Command with leadership like former General Simon Peter Worden and a lot of other space and spiritual warriors in the DoD.

There was the 13 member RUMSFELD Space Commission and also reports like the USAF Vision 2020. Thank God for the Federation of American Scientists (as paradoxical as that sounds) who preserved the Vision for 2020 docs as a visbook pdf.

Vision For 2020
http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usspac/visbook.pdf

One more link for today-the Wikipedia Office of Strategic Influence entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Influence

Check out the history that hasn't been rendered into a 404. Yep, a lot of reality used to be dismissed as wingnut conspiracy/paranoia-for instance domestic Psychological Operations.





 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
13. I really miss Angus Mackenzie who passed away before the publication of his work SECRETS
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:30 PM
Sep 2013

he was years ahead of his time when it came to researching the intelligence community's criminal domestic operations and some of the blowback. Here's a link for all of US today.

SECRETS: The CIA's War at Home
http://www.whale.to/b/mackenzie_b.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
14. NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users (James Ball, Bruce Schneier and
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:40 PM
Oct 2013

Glenn Greenwald 10-4-13 Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption

I think that 12 Step programs were penetrated long ago, in the context of the loss of anonymity. Vulnerable people have been targeted throughout history-this just makes it easier.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
15. Dirty Work: The CIA in Western Europe by Philip Agee and Louis Wolf (1978) Worth the download time
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:49 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.scribd.com/doc/127591463/76584907-Dirty-Work-CIA-in-Europe-Philip-Agee-1978

For those unfamiliar with Philip Agee here are a couple of links

Philip Agee.com
http://www.philipagee.com

Spartacus Schoolnet entry
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKagee.htm

Wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Agee

Interesting read as the US is possibly heading towards default-also helps to dispel what was once called conspiracy theory in the context of the US intelligence community

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
17. Glad to see that some US whistleblowers met with Ed Snowden somewhere...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:24 PM
Oct 2013

Here's a highly informative Tom Shorrock article from 4-15-13 (taxday)@The Nation

Obama's Crackdown on Whistleblowers: The NSA Four reveal how a toxic mix of cronyism and fraud blinded the agency before 9/11
http://www.thenation.com/article/173521/obamas-crackdown-whistleblowers#

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
18. Editors on the NSA files: "What the Guardian is doing is important for democracy" (10-10-13)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:02 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/10/guardian-democracy-editors

We don't have a fourth estate anymore-that's changing in many ways because an informed citizen is a requirement of democracy.
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
21. Some Booz Allen Hamilton links for those of you that "got it" long ago (got it= documenting crimes)
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:39 PM
Oct 2013

Booz Allen Hamilton Wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton

Carlyle Group May Buy Major CIA Contractor Booz Allen Hamilton (Tim Shorrock 2008)
http://www.zcommunications.org/carlyle-group-may-buy-major-cia-contractor-booz-allen-hamilton-by-tim-shorrock.html

Source Watch NSA entry
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/NSA

Thank you again Mr. Snowden.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
22. The Electronic Frontier Foundation/EFF Deeplinks blog is also a great resource (hacked or not)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:50 PM
Nov 2013

Deeplinks (EFF)
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks

Thank you Ed Snowden.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
23. NSA goes on 60 Minutes: the definitive facts behind CBS's flawed report (The Guardian)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:36 PM
Dec 2013

Here's The Guardian's 12-16 article followed by a CBS News 12-12 transcript via John Young's cryptome

http://theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/16/nsa-surveillance-60-minutes-cbs-facts

NSA Interviewed by CBS 60 Minutes Transcript
http://cryptome.org/2013/12/nsa-60mins/nsa-60mins.htm

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
24. I didn't know that SAIC is now leidos-oh well, better late than never.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 05:23 PM
Dec 2013

Here's a link to the leidos national security newsroom page. Check out their 12-10-13 News Release about sponsoring the Air Force's CyberPatriot Program.
http://www.leidos.com/natsec/newsroom

I remember a lot about SAIC. I assume that leidos is contracted with Cyber Command, which activated its headquarters about the time that SAIC became leidos.
Science Applications International Corporation/SAIC (SourceWatch page)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Science_Applications_International_Corporation

Cybercom Activates National Mission Force Headquarters
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=120854

Happy New Year-I encourage more technically knowledgeable DUers to post in this thread.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
26. Here's a kick + news, the hacker known as Guccifer has reportedly been arrested in Romania
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jan 2014

Guccifer Files Further Detail Hacking Spree (The Smoking Gun 1-22-14 update)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/guccifer-archive-687543

Cryptome Guccifer Archive
http://cryptome.org/2014/01/guccifer-cryptome.htm

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