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Pols mock Snowden 'oppression tour'
Pols mock Snowden 'oppression tour'
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How about the great irony here, ABCs Martha Raddatz said on the networks This Week. Hes complaining about the United States and all the things the United States is doing wrong, and he might end up in Venezuela? Good luck, pal.
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When you look at it, every one of those nations is hostile to the United States, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said on NBCs Meet the Press, referencing Russia, Venezuela and Cuba. I mean, if he could go to North Korea and Iran he could round out his government oppression tour by Snowden. So you think about what he says he wants, and what his actions are, it defies logic.
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Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Snowdens actions stand in stark contrast to those who are often remembered as champions of freedom.
You know, some might try to say that, oh, hes a great human rights crusader, Schumer said on CNNs State of the Union. He is not at all like the great human rights crusaders in the past, the Martin Luther Kings or the Gandhis who did civil disobedience because he first, he flees the country. A Daniel Ellsberg, when he released the Pentagon Papers because he thought it was the right thing to do, stayed in America and faced the consequences. But second, hes hurt other people. You know, a Gandhi or a Martin Luther King didnt hurt other people as they did their resistance, and they faced the consequences, he continued.
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As Snowden takes his stand for transparency to Moscow, heres a guide to journalists murdered in Russia since 1992, tweeted right-leaning commentator David Frum, linking to a list of 55 people culled by the Committee to Protect Journalists. Human rights advocate beaten as Russian officers watch - the country Snowden picked for refuge/transit, chimed in New York Times reporter Peter Baker with a link to another piece.
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Pols mock Snowden 'oppression tour' (Original Post)
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
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RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)1. They're mad because Snowden gave them a wedgie!
And they couldn't care less about the 4th being violated.
All of them need to resign. They are a part of the problem.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)2. The 4th has not been violated. n/t
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)8. The 4th A. was NOT violated
And what about when Snowden said:
I am not here to hide from justice . My intention is to ask the courts and people of Hong Kong to decide my fate
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/edward-snowden-us-extradition-fight
So Snowden is, by his own admission, a felon, a defector, a liar and most certainly NOT a hero.
sheshe2
(83,770 posts)3. Telling~
Is it not Tx.
The cruel irony is that there are no press freedoms in either Cuba or Venezuela, yet Snowden who supposedly stands for transparency in government seeks refuge in police states like these two countries, she said. Those who misrule over Cuba and Venezuela, Raul Castro and Nicolas Maduro, do not allow independent free press, do not cooperate on terrorism related issues, disregard due process and an independent judicial system.
Republicans and Democrats alike, speaking on Sunday morning news shows, jabbed at Snowden for running away. Doing so, they said, undermines his attempts to position himself as a whistleblower.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/pols-mock-edward-snowden-93202.html#ixzz2X6iHyXro
Republicans and Democrats alike, speaking on Sunday morning news shows, jabbed at Snowden for running away. Doing so, they said, undermines his attempts to position himself as a whistleblower.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/pols-mock-edward-snowden-93202.html#ixzz2X6iHyXro
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)4. USA still has more people in jail than all of them. /nt
treestar
(82,383 posts)7. They had trials and the right to counsel
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)9. bwhahahaha!!! /nt
treestar
(82,383 posts)10. Have you ever been to a courthouse?
There are trials going on there every day.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)11. Oh wait, you're serious.
There are thousands of trials taking place this very day.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)13. To explain the rate then I suppose American's just have more criminal minds.
I suppose the Chinese and Russians make excuses too. Doesn't change the cold hard fact that we have far more people in prison than either of them.
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)5. K & R
treestar
(82,383 posts)6. Transparency to Moscow
That's the ticket! Snowjob is a self promoter. And like that list of murdered Russian journalists shows, he sure picked the right place to flee for journalistic freedom.