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Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
Fri May 3, 2013, 01:03 AM May 2013

Jewish leaders alarmed by far-right, anti-Semitism in Hungary

BUDAPEST (Reuters) - The rise of far-right movements and anti-Semitism across Europe, notably in Hungary, where more than half a million Jews were killed in the Nazi Holocaust, will preoccupy Jewish leaders from around the globe when they meet in Budapest on Sunday.

"Clearly, anti-Semitism in Hungary is on the rise, and we have also witnessed a dramatic growth in the number of attacks against other minorities such as the Roma," World Jewish Congress (WJC) president Ronald Lauder told Reuters by email.

He said the rise of the far-right opposition party Jobbik posed a threat to Jews and other minorities living in Hungary.

"We believe that the Hungarian government should take stronger action to combat hate crimes. It should not just react, but present a long-term strategy how to improve the situation," Lauder said.

A WJC spokesman said the Congress had chosen Budapest as the venue for its annual meeting partly to show solidarity with the Hungarian Jewish community, but said Hungary was not the only European country where anti-Semitism was on the upswing.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/jewish-leaders-alarmed-far-anti-semitism-hungary-103459495.html

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I can't decide which is more alarming, the news article, or the comments in the section below the article.

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Jewish leaders alarmed by far-right, anti-Semitism in Hungary (Original Post) Behind the Aegis May 2013 OP
The comments, easily. elleng May 2013 #1
It's kinda my fault. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #2
I guess. elleng May 2013 #3
Trust me, they don't just hate Jews. aquart May 2013 #4
Agreed. Hate like that is usually, if not always, directed at multiple groups. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #5
The follow up comments Half-Century Man May 2013 #6
Half-Century Man Diclotican May 2013 #8
Behind the Aegis Diclotican May 2013 #7
Jewish leaders should be alarmed by far-right, anti-Semitism in the US. fasttense May 2013 #9
Yes. Water is also wet. aquart May 2013 #10
It isn't just capitalism, it is any economic woes. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #11

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
2. It's kinda my fault.
Fri May 3, 2013, 01:10 AM
May 2013

It wasn't until I was actually posting the link, when I realized I was at a Yahoo! page, not a Reuters page. That's what you get when you play "follow the link."

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
6. The follow up comments
Fri May 3, 2013, 02:23 AM
May 2013

I want to point out that the economic problems Europe endured in the 1930's were the major factors in the rise of fascism and anti-semitic activity. Apparently this is happening again. If the comments following the article are any indication.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
8. Half-Century Man
Fri May 3, 2013, 02:40 AM
May 2013

Half-Century Man

The lack of jobs - and economical problems Europe have today - and had in the 1930s, is absolutely one of the major factors to the rise of fascism, and anti-semitic activity - no doubt about it.. It was when Germany was crumbling under the economical collapse after 1930, that made Hitler posible... And in the future can give way to someone who is maybe even worse than Hitler was in its day... (And that I would say is difficult, as he was really a nasty person... )

Diclotican

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
7. Behind the Aegis
Fri May 3, 2013, 02:37 AM
May 2013

Behind the Aegis

Hungary never did a really good work in going true trials, to get the guilty ones after WW2 punished for their crimes when most of the minorities in Hungary was by train showled off to Auschwitz to be killed there.. Even many years after the war, when some nazi-hunters was following up on informations about hungarians who lived in the country as free men and woman - it was very difficult to get the government of Hungary to do anything to arrest them. Even if the evidences was documented - the hungarian officials would often just turn the blind aye to the case - and in most cases it was when the suspect was leaving the country - many emigrated to the US in fact - then some was arrested, and after tedious and difficult trials, some was punished, by a rather "brief" prison sentence, as many Judges was not capable or willing to let the whole case be documented - and as such, people who had killed many, could be given a couple of years - or a decade in a prison - rather than be looked up for the rest of their life....

And then we have the far right party Jobbik, who in many cases is the same party who had power, in the inter-war period, and who was rather synaptic to the nazi cause from 1934 and forward - as Hungary for the most part, was far forward in the curve, to make it almost impossible for minorities like jews to have a decent life, and who from 1939, when germany was in play for real - worked closely to arrest, put jews in prison camps and KZ camps - and then when the germans asked them to give them all their jews, was pleased to let them get it... And it was not before 1944, when most of the Hungarian jews was killed of, that the Hungarian government finally, after sending far to many to their death, stooped the practice - and was overturned by the more radical nazi-friendly parties - but who in 1944 was on the lost leg of their powers - as the Soviets was marching west, to Hitlers end in 1945...

The Jobnik is nothing less than a neo-nazi party - who use many of the same tools to make their presence shown, as the "iron-guard" of the inter-war and the war period.. They are no shy of using the rhetoric - and the same brutal methods to force their will on their opponent - and they are not shy of violent hate crimes - something that specially the egyptis in Hungary have experienced for full the last couple of years....

Anti-Semites is sorry to say - in some parts of Europe on the rise.. For the most part it is on the rise in the old Eastern Block - as many, if not most of them have experienced some nasty cases the last couple of decades - and where the governments have yet to really do something with the past.. In the west, for the most part, we are educated about what happened in World War two - not just the war itself - but also about the killing and murders of minorities in Europe... In many eastern European nations, it all ended in the dark shadows of the cold war - and many was never really told the reality of World War two - other than, first they was the victims of Hitler - then victims of Stalin...

Diclotican

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
9. Jewish leaders should be alarmed by far-right, anti-Semitism in the US.
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:16 AM
May 2013

Why does bigotry and anti-Semitism rise when capitalism hits the fan?

I think it is purposely stoked by the right to distract from the fact the capitalism is a broken and corrupted economic system.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
11. It isn't just capitalism, it is any economic woes.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:26 PM
May 2013

When money is involved, it will almost always be the Jews who are targeted. Immigrants are the other group.

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