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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:22 AM Apr 2013

How Boston exposes America’s dark post-9/11 bargain


Why did this story drive the whole country nuts? Because we traded rights for "security," and didn't get either

BY ANDREW O'HEHIR


To put it mildly, this has been a bad week for democracy and a worse one for public discourse. In the minutes and hours after the bombs went off in Boston last Monday, marathon runners, first responders and many ordinary citizens responded to a chaotic situation with great courage and generosity, not knowing whether they might be putting their own lives at risk. Since then, though, it’s mostly been a massive and disheartening national freakout, with pundits, politicians, major news outlets and the self-appointed sleuths of the Internet – in fact, nearly everyone besides those directly affected by the attack – heaping disgrace upon themselves.

We’ve seen the most famous TV network in the news business repeatedly botch basic facts, while one of the country’s largest-circulation newspapers misreported the number of people killed, launched a wave of hysteria over a “Saudi national” who turned out to have nothing to do with the crime, and then published a cover photo suggesting that two other guys (also innocent) might be the bombers. We’ve seen the vaunted crowd-sourcing capability of Reddit degenerate into self-reinforcing mass delusion, in which a bunch of people whose law-enforcement expertise consisted of massive doses of “CSI” convinced themselves that a missing college student was one of the bombing suspects. (He wasn’t – and with that young man’s fate still unknown, how does his family feel today?)

We’ve watched elected officials and political commentators struggle to twist every nubbin of news or rumor toward some perceived short-term tactical advantage. It was as if the only real importance of this horrific but modestly scaled terrorist attack lay in how it could prove the essential rightness of one’s existing worldview, and — of course! — how it would play in the 2014 midterms. On the right, people were sure the Boston bombings were part of a massive jihadi plot – no doubt one linked to al-Qaida and Iran and Saddam Hussein and all the other landmarks in the connect-the-dots paranoid worldview of Islamophobia. (In fact, many people are still convinced of that.) On the left we heard a lot of theories about Patriots’ Day and Waco and Oklahoma City, along with the argument that it would be better for global peace if the bombers turned out to be white Americans rather than foreign Muslims. (I sympathize with the underlying point David Sirota was making there, by the way, but the way it was phrased was deliberately inflammatory.)

How long did it take conservative pundits and politicians, after the bombing suspects were identified as Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, immigrant brothers of Chechen heritage born in Kyrgyzstan, to seize on that fact as a reason to walk back the supposed Republican change of heart on immigration reform? Was it even five minutes? Never mind that the young men in question came here as war refugees in childhood, one was an American citizen and the other a legal resident, and we still have no idea what role their religion and national background may or may not have played in motivating the crime. It’s hard to imagine what possible immigration laws could have categorically excluded them, short of a magic anti-Muslim force field. And don’t even get me started on the irrelevant but unavoidable fact that the shameless, butt-licking lackeys of the Senate’s Republican caucus (with a few Democrats along for the ride) took advantage of the post-Boston confusion to do Wayne LaPierre’s bidding and kill a modest gun-reform bill supported by nearly the entire American public.

full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/20/how_boston_exposes_americas_dark_post_911_bargain/
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How Boston exposes America’s dark post-9/11 bargain (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2013 OP
Everyone has a stake in using events like these DirkGently Apr 2013 #1
Your comments... DonViejo Apr 2013 #3
I agree with didn't get either, rights or security,but these issues were imposed upon us as a nation mother earth Apr 2013 #2
Another legacy Brainstormy Apr 2013 #4
I agree, I am grateful it came to a quick end and that the youngest brother was taken alive. But, I mother earth Apr 2013 #5

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
1. Everyone has a stake in using events like these
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

to reinforce some theory of how we ought to be doing things, or what we're doing wrong already.

It's kind of perverse, trying to shoehorn every perceived tragedy or victory into something about religion or immigration or war or civil rights. We miss the forest for the trees.

People want to think that if only we had less religion, or more guns, or fewer immigrants, or harsher punishment, then somehow we could make sure things like this never happen.

But we can't make sure. This case proves no one's argument. Taking off our shoes in the airport won't fix it. Keeping out Mexican workers won't fix it. Military tribunals and harsh interrogation won't fix it. Even blaming the NRA and rightwing loons won't fix it.

As for catching these guys, we got lucky. We ID'd them with a store security cam, and then they panicked and shot a cop who wasn't even looking for them.

It's uncomfortable knowing we are always vulnerable, but there it is.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
2. I agree with didn't get either, rights or security,but these issues were imposed upon us as a nation
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:43 AM
Apr 2013

on 9/11 by an unscrupulous POTUS and his VP/adminstration. We have been further subjected to more of the same since.

What we have is broken gov't, from the banking disaster where BushCo imposed bail-outs & the illegal wars wrought, and on to the new POTUS who refused to look back and thereby surrendered our rights as a nation to demand justice.

Is it any wonder chaos actually rules in this country owned by the oligarch that has brought us to our very knees?

We have efforts like OWS and peace demonstrators who face more scrutiny than the outgoing cabal did. This is wrong.
We certainly are facing a dark post 911 bargain, but did we ever really have any choice?

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
4. Another legacy
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:56 AM
Apr 2013

of that dark 9/11 bargain is the complete paralysis of an entire city, the devasting economic losses, and in my opinion, an eggregious over-reaction to "terroism." I have nothing negative to say about Boston law enforcement, but the next political malcontent thinking about acting out will be much encouraged by the outsize reaction these two received.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
5. I agree, I am grateful it came to a quick end and that the youngest brother was taken alive. But, I
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:24 AM
Apr 2013

have questions, I want the truth, like everyone else, though I'm more in the party of until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

We've been lied to one too many times as a nation, what appearances seem to be or how things are reported are very deserving of our relentless scrutiny. I understand how vulnerable we all are to opinion shaping, and how carefully this can be instigated. This is not to say I have any preconceived notions of guilt or innocence in this case, we've seen the victims, I read everything, and I weigh it all. But I want to KNOW the truth, I want to hear this boy's mother acknowledge publicly what she believes after she speaks with her son. As a mother, I want this.

I want to KNOW facts, we THINK we know some of them now, that's not enough, I want to know beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I will not be terrorized by any one or any institution to believe we must spend more and more on security or the war machine. A terrorist is not born in a vacuum, there are far greater issues at hand and we are failing miserably in that area, apparently.

We need to move beyond this endless war on terrorism money pit that glorifies the very weaponry we object to, and examine what is happening to our society. We cry for more jurisdiction over guns, more security and we spend more money than any nation on WAR. Enough is enough. We need a good long hard look at ourselves BEFORE we act.

Sorry for my rant, I think all of us are weary of these tragedies, we want peace. Like the youngest victim of the Boston bombing, we want people to stop hurting each other. God rest his sweet little soul.

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