Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Astrad

(466 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:46 AM Mar 2013

"They are essentially dead men who just happen to breathe."

‘Men live in Guantanamo animal cages, will never get trials’


Well you’re going to have to answer that as a political question. I’m a lawyer. I’m here to look at the facts and tell you that I’ve reviewed these cases and these guys will never get trials. If they’re never getting trials, then we have to go by what the president said in March 2011, when he said indefinite detention will be implemented in Guantanamo Bay and will be the law of the United States. Forty-eight men will be condemned to die never being given a trial or given an opportunity to defend themselves. They are essentially dead men who just happen to breathe.


http://www.russiatoday.com/op-edge/guantanamo-bay-hunger-strike-732/
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"They are essentially dead men who just happen to breathe." (Original Post) Astrad Mar 2013 OP
The irony of this appearing in RT Doctor_J Mar 2013 #1
RT is often spot on. Ash_F Mar 2013 #4
For we are the US of A and we will make us laws as we so need. toby jo Mar 2013 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2013 #3
But really who cares? zeemike Mar 2013 #5
There is no justice in the 'War on Terror' blackspade Mar 2013 #6
The great majority of Gitmo detainees have been released to their countries. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #7
You have got to be kidding me. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #10
"...judged the worst of the worst...." mike_c Mar 2013 #12
If they really were "the worst of the worst" then their trials would establish that. Jim Lane Mar 2013 #13
K&R idwiyo Mar 2013 #8
This is about justice and freedom. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #9
Kick and Recommend. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #11
That must take us pre-magna carta libodem Mar 2013 #14
Recommend.. KoKo Mar 2013 #15
In Texas there is a positive sign of change Anonymousecoview Mar 2013 #16
Hello ~ Anonymousecoview In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #17
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
1. The irony of this appearing in RT
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:02 AM
Mar 2013

Even though the point of the article is spot on.

Like our former leader so elequently put it, "Don't talk about the twig in your eye when there's a log in mine".

Rec

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
2. For we are the US of A and we will make us laws as we so need.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

Barack, that's a sliver of evil and hatred you put into the law of the land. On you, big man.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
5. But really who cares?
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:22 PM
Mar 2013

None of our leadership give a shit about humanity...we bought into that when we started torturing people and celebrated it with a TV program called 24...now it is accepted practice to torture people "if there is a pressing threat"
And Democrats and Republicans alike ignore the morality of it...and none of our liberal organizations or leaders will say shit about it, much less organize a general strike because of it...which is what MUST be done if we are to stop it.
They have us focused on things that have nothing to do with that...and they know we are easily distracted by shiny things.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
6. There is no justice in the 'War on Terror'
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:25 PM
Mar 2013

These guys should have been released a decade ago.
Scratch that, never locked up in the first place.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
7. The great majority of Gitmo detainees have been released to their countries.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:46 PM
Mar 2013

The ones that are still in Gitmo are not welcomed back in their country's of origin, such as Mongolian Uygars. The ones that are left after this are judged the worst of the worst and will go straight back to Alqueda (sic). They are treated a hundred times better than inmates in US prisons. Read some books on the subject, or are you just a "sympathizer"?

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
12. "...judged the worst of the worst...."
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:18 PM
Mar 2013

They've never had a trial. Who judged them? And why did they do it in secret?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
13. If they really were "the worst of the worst" then their trials would establish that.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 07:53 PM
Mar 2013

If their countries of origin won't take them back, then the U.S., having kidnapped them from one place, has a moral obligation to find someplace else for them -- someplace other than lifelong imprisonment without charge and without trial.

 

Anonymousecoview

(225 posts)
16. In Texas there is a positive sign of change
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:13 PM
Mar 2013

Look at the new justice system in Texas. Judges visit the people they convicted even after parole. The old system was so harsh, any friend or relative of a convict began to seriously begrudge the system. The opposite is happening now in Texas, justice is still being served, but it costs less with fewer hardened criminals.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»"They are essentially dea...