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swag

(26,490 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:32 AM Nov 2012

The real reason for almost all big business failures

http://observationalepidemiology.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-real-reason-for-almost-all-big.html

The commonly voiced view of business, red in tooth and claw, a Darwinian landscape where only the fit survive may hold for small to mid-sized operations, but with big business, survival is surprisingly easy. As a rule it is only the remarkably unfit that die. When you see a big company go under you can generally find a history of incompetent management and stupid or shortsighted decisions.

Though as narrative-obsessed as their political brethren, business journalists tend to be notably averse to stories built around the question "what happens when you give the keys to an idiot?" That's a shame because some of the most entertaining accounts start with that premise. It's understandable though. Business journalists, once again like their political brethren, tend to have overly cozy relationships with their subjects and, (compared to reporters thirty or forty) tend to sympathize more with management than labor.

The decline of professional standards also plays a part. A surprising number of "news" stories are actually press releases in only slightly rewritten form and PR department go to great lengths to avoid statements that make their bosses look like morons.

. . . follows with links and a good narrative on the demise of Hostess
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The real reason for almost all big business failures (Original Post) swag Nov 2012 OP
"Stupid, Shortsighted Decisions" Iggy Nov 2012 #1
It seems that sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #6
Exactly. I've not read the related article yet, but I see Iggy Nov 2012 #9
Did "greed" even make the list? DCKit Nov 2012 #2
it's that gauddammm debt they load the company with onethatcares Nov 2012 #3
taking bonuses and obscene wage ratios AlbertCat Nov 2012 #5
Another common misconception is that the private sector always does it better than government Major Nikon Nov 2012 #4
The inevitable example is DMV, AlbertCat Nov 2012 #7
PA's DMV is really good Patiod Nov 2012 #8
Floridas' DMV is really good too. onethatcares Nov 2012 #10
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
1. "Stupid, Shortsighted Decisions"
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:47 AM
Nov 2012

yep. and looks like this applies to Hostess.

"Who Killed the Twinkie?"

Hostess, then known as Interstate Bakeries, spent more than four years consolidating (it closed 54 bakeries and hundreds of stores), selling assets, negotiating with its unions and battling takeover attempts. But instead of emerging cleaned up in 2009, it emerged smaller and burdened. Private equity and hedge funds owned half. Unions took an ownership stake in exchange for concessions.

The biggest problem was a $700 million loan that couldn’t be repaid. Hostess was back in bankruptcy court earlier this year, seeking to reorganize again. But it was a bad situation made worse. The unions, including the Teamsters and bakery workers, felt they had been lied to and misled by new management. Is it the end of the line for Twinkies? (Slideshow)

It got nasty. A court ordered 8% wage cuts and a 17% increase in health-care costs for workers. The unions point to huge management contracts . The CEO is paid $100,000 a month. It’s considered an improvement. The former CEO, Brian Driscoll, was making $1.5 million annually.

New management is led by restructuring whiz Gregory Rayburn. His record outside of Hostess is mixed. He’s worked with companies including WorldCom (sold to Verizon Communications, Muzak (eventually went bankrupt), and Sunterra Corp. which became Diamond Resorts Holdings.

Rayburn thinks the unions are sabotaging Hostess. The unions think Rayburn and his team are looting the company. There’s been disinformation on both sides,


Hellooooo? a $700 million dollar loan that can't be repaid? is this the fault of Hostess workers?

FAIL.

http://www.marketwatch.com/Story/story/print?guid=3F512DCC-3269-11E2-A56A-002128040CF6
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
6. It seems that
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
Nov 2012

reorganization means only the employees and the suppliers get screwed, and the suits make off with the swag and one gets to run for President.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
9. Exactly. I've not read the related article yet, but I see
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

"Chainsaw" Jack Welch, one of the originators/adherents of this branch of dog-eat-dog capitalism, is on the cover of the recent Bloomberg Business Week.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
2. Did "greed" even make the list?
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:51 AM
Nov 2012

With the astronomical salaries and bonuses (whether it's a good year, or bad, they still pay themselves those damn bonuses), it's a wonder there aren't far more large business failures.

onethatcares

(16,186 posts)
3. it's that gauddammm debt they load the company with
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:53 AM
Nov 2012

using the assets of the same company while taking bonuses and obscene wage ratios that kill it all.

Our economic model is a scam, just like bernie madoff, but congress allows it to go on and on.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
5. taking bonuses and obscene wage ratios
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
Nov 2012

I had a Repug "explain" to me that many people get golden parachutes not because the make the company money, but because they SAVE the company millions. That is all well and good... but JUST saving and making money is not all there is to it. There's also HOW they make and save money. The ends do not justify the means. If one has to cheat, then, is that a good business model?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Another common misconception is that the private sector always does it better than government
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

The inevitable example is DMV, which is obviously provided to provoke an emotional response of the worst experience people tend to have with the government instead of using reason to support their case, when they can't.

Some states I've lived in have an amazing DMV. Very little waiting. Great service. No problems. In other states, legislators slice the budget of things like DMV to the point which guarantees poor service, then use the DMV as an example of why government doesn't work.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. The inevitable example is DMV,
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

And then there's the Post Office.

As if it sux.

95.5% of your mail gets to you. I can't remember the last time something was lost in the mail. I mean considering what it is they actually do.... they are amazing!

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
8. PA's DMV is really good
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:56 AM
Nov 2012

Many of the employees are severely handicapped and also provide good service.

onethatcares

(16,186 posts)
10. Floridas' DMV is really good too.
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:44 PM
Nov 2012

and you can pay your property taxes, buy your car/boat/trailer tag/mobile home tag, and get your drivers licence in the same spot.

Now pricksnot wants to privatize it.

Go figure.

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