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applegrove

(118,837 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:05 PM Nov 2012

"It’s Not Your Freedom You’re Worried About, It’s Theirs" at electablog

It’s Not Your Freedom You’re Worried About, It’s Theirs

by LOLGOP at electablog

http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/11/its-not-your-freedom-youre-worried-about-its-theirs.html#.UKzagX4L3Fk.reddit

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But thanks to Ronald Reagan, we’ve already been paying for each other’s health insurance for decades in the form of inflated health care costs, and this will make it possible for nearly all Americans who can’t afford it to get coverage. And, if you choose not to have coverage -— despite the fact that every American is going to need it at some point — it will cost you about $5 a day, which is likely comparable when averaged out over your lifetime that you’d end up paying for “free riders,” the uninsured who show up in the emergency room with no insurance or means of paying.

You also get Christian fundamentalists saying that Catholics have lost their religious freedom because the organizations they sponsor — not churches, which are exempt — have to offer insurance plans that make free birth control available to women who want it. They no longer have the freedom to deny that basic element of reproductive health care.

That’s it. That’s how they’ve lost their freedom. They have to take responsibility for their own health insurance and/or allow people to get the legal medication they want*.

And they never mention the freedoms we’ve gained since Barack Obama became president.


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"It’s Not Your Freedom You’re Worried About, It’s Theirs" at electablog (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2012 OP
if employers don't like the restrictions on the health insurance they offer, they could unblock Nov 2012 #1
Absolutely. In Ontario, many new branch plants were opened applegrove Nov 2012 #2
Exactly. silverweb Nov 2012 #3

unblock

(52,383 posts)
1. if employers don't like the restrictions on the health insurance they offer, they could
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:12 PM
Nov 2012

support medicare-for-all and get employers out of the business of their employees' health insurance altogether.

getting health insurance through employers makes no sense whatsoever. every employer should be eager to get out of that business altogether so they can focus their business on their "core competencies".

with medicare-for-all, an employee's health insurance becomes absolutely none of their concern, so they need not be bothered with whether or not they're paying for birth control.

applegrove

(118,837 posts)
2. Absolutely. In Ontario, many new branch plants were opened
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:22 PM
Nov 2012

in the 1990s because the american employers said our health care system made them more competitive.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. Exactly.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:47 PM
Nov 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]One of the lines I love most in Billy Bragg's English lyrics for the Internationale is, "Freedom's merely privilege extended, unless enjoyed by one and all."

It's not "losing" their freedoms the bigots are so enraged about, because they've lost absolutely nothing except their privilege of freedoms denied to others (and thus their ability to lord it over those others).

Bigotry is nothing but a form of bullying, and there is never an excuse for bullying of any sort.

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