Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 08:03 AM Oct 2012

Empire and Its Consequences

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/10/11



Ever notice the way certain basic human values quietly transform into their opposite on their way to becoming national policy?

At the human level, the immorality of murder is fundamental, and most people understand the insanity of armed hatred. Keeping these dark forces under wraps is essential to the existence of human society. So why is it, then, that at the abstract level of nationalism, those forces are honored, worshiped, saluted, extolled as glorious, and given command of an enormous budget?

Why is it that their perpetuation via increasingly sophisticated technology is equated with national security and no one talks about the completely predictable negative consequences of basing security on murder and hatred?

And why does it feel so naïve to be asking such questions?

It’s as though the arrangement was settled four or five millennia ago. Killing is wrong, but we have to kill one another, you know, in self-defense, in order to survive. And hating people is wrong — mocking them, dehumanizing them — but some people ask for it. They do it to us, so we have no choice but to do it back. Hate, dehumanize, eliminate our enemies and . . . voila, we’re safe, at least for the time being. What don’t you get about that?
2 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Empire and Its Consequences (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2012 OP
Good Read locks Oct 2012 #1
It IS naive to ask this question cbrer Oct 2012 #2

locks

(2,012 posts)
1. Good Read
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:13 AM
Oct 2012

Thanks for the powerful and honest words of Robert C. Koehler. Also, refer to his new book "Courage Grows Strong at the Wound." It is so difficult to express what we know about the folly of war and violence without seeming to condemn our dear children who have been told for so long that the military are the true heroes and who proudly go to war to defend us and our country when we send them. Rachel Maddow's book "Drift" and Krakauer's book "Where Men Win Glory, the Odyssey of Pat Tillman" are also good reads. We need to do more than hope (and pray) for peace; we need to change the way we educate our children, especially through our religious beliefs and values, from the time they are born.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
2. It IS naive to ask this question
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 03:12 AM
Oct 2012

For the material wealth that war provides the few corporate profiteers and hate mongers is well known. The human wreckage, much of whom is dead, much of whom is destroyed, is THE human tragedy of the 21st century.

American citizens complicity, or tacit agreement is the moral equivalent of a blank check of approval. AND, our grandchildren will pay the bill in terms of debt, and human dysfunction.

The hope and vision of progressive movement is being ground down and ridiculed. Belittled and marginalized to the point of quackery.

I hold out some hope that future citizens will see beyond their pocketbooks, but thorough control of economic factors, as well as the destruction of the social safety net, practically ensures that personal economic crisis will remain at the forefront of many Americans voting priorities.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»Empire and Its Consequenc...