Factcheck.org review of Obama's statement re Rmoney's plans for Medicare is not legitimate.
Factcheck.org judged the President's statement that Rmoney will turn Medicare into a voucher system leaving seniors at the mercy of insurance companies. They make some obfuscating statements saying that certain medical plans offered by the Government operate 'pretty much the same way' as the voucher system proposed by Rmoney will work. This is a massive simplification and it is deceptive.
But the biggest reason their so-called analysis is a fraud is they are ignoring the fact that the amount the Government will pay through the vouchers, as Rmoney has admitted, will not be increasing as quickly as health insurance costs most certainly are expected to increase. So, as Obama says the voucher system WILL leave seniors at the mercy of the insurance companies.
Factcheck.org's review and judgement on Obama's statement re Rmoney's plans for Medicare is sophistic and fraudulent. I would consider any reviews by Factcheck.org to be suspect.
FactCheck.org appraisal of Obama's statement on Rmoney's plans for Medicare
Obama: And by the way, I will never turn Medicare into a voucher because no American should have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies.
But claiming that its a voucher system that would put seniors at the mercy of insurance companies is misleading
It's interestingto note that Politifact did determined that Obama's statement re Rmoney's plans for Medicare was mostly TRUE.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/03/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-wants-turn-medicare-voucher-prog/
Under the current system, the federal government pays doctors and hospitals fees for particular services. That would end under the Romney-Ryan Medicare plan. Instead, beneficiaries would have the choice of receiving a fixed subsidy from the federal government that could go toward a private insurance plan or a plan similar to traditional Medicare. We should note the plan would only apply to people who are under 55 today, not current seniors.
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Generally, we think "voucher program" is a fair way of describing to voters the vision for Medicare under a Romney-Ryan administration. We rate Obamas claim Mostly True.
doc03
(35,358 posts)seniors and the ones with the poorest health would be forced onto Medicare and that would bankrupt the system.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)up with their Right-friendly judgements.
ALso, when they said certain current government insurance programs are much the same as a voucher system they are ignoring the fact that these programs they are referring to the Government carries a lot of weight with insurers as the payer for the services. In a voucher system the Government will give the voucher tothe people who then have to buy insurance as millions of individual purchasers with absolutely no power to influence pricing. ... in other words, they would be "at the mercy of the insurance companies".
pretending that they would not be, as Factcheck is, is bullshit.
Lasher
(27,611 posts)PolitiFact lost all credibility with that ruling. Now it's interesting to see the lie of the year turn into mostly true.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x641627#642609
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)It's interesting how these fact checking sites can list all kinds of detailed alleged analysis and then come up with a conclusion that often ignores the obvious!
I bookmarked the post over on DU Classic, but then realized I'd better bookmark this thread (yes, it's my own thread, but bookmarking it will make this one stand out better by being on a bookmarks list than just being one of many posts on "my posts" list(not ALL of which are all that noteworthy)).
Lasher
(27,611 posts)There is a wealth of information out there but the trick is to locate it. Bookmarks are helpful. And of course we have each other here at DU.