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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 02:32 PM Oct 2012

I'm Not Interested in Finding a Truce in the Culture War. I’m Interested in Winning It.

http://jezebel.com/5949420/im-not-interested-in-finding-a-truce-in-the-culture-war-im-interested-in-winning-it

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Haidt lays out some of the ways that both sides, left and right, carelessly foment divisiveness bypushing each other's buttons. And he offers some advice:

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Nope. Sorry.

Conservatives ARE waging a "war on women." Liberals, by contrast, are certainly not waging a "war on religion." I don't give a shit about your religion. I'm not saying your religion is bad, I'm not saying it's good, I just don't care. It's annoying, but you can go yell about your religion on the street, you can beg people for wig-money on TV, and you can even come knock on my door (if you like throwing time and energy in the garbage). You can believe literally whatever you want, as long as your beliefs don't actively restrict the rights of other human beings.

Haidt's two examples are not parallel. In the first, the birth control example, religious conservatives are fighting for the right to make women's basic healthcare contingent upon adherence to an arbitrary, conservative moral code. The implication is that a woman's vagina (and concomitant reproductive organs) is not a part of her body—it's a separate entity that, because of puritanical religious attitudes toward female sexuality, does not warrant the same medical care as every other fucking (or, rather, non-fucking) part of her body. The specific medical care that a woman needs is between her and her doctor, and if human beings are covered by a medical plan, then human bodies should be covered by that medical plan, regardless of what we do with those bodies. Full stop. Also, kindly stop thinking so much about what I do with my body. It's creepy.

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I'm Not Interested in Finding a Truce in the Culture War. I’m Interested in Winning It. (Original Post) redqueen Oct 2012 OP
No truce. No quarter. Victory! SunSeeker Oct 2012 #1
+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #2
OPERATION NORTHWOODS blkmusclmachine Oct 2012 #3
I think the left has already won the culture war. Laelth Oct 2012 #4

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
1. No truce. No quarter. Victory!
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

A truce allows the status quo to remain. The status quo is unacceptable.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. I think the left has already won the culture war.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:34 AM
Oct 2012

It's just a matter of time before the left's cultural victories become law in all 50 states, but it's coming, and those on the right know it.

-Laelth

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