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IamK

(956 posts)
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:15 PM Jul 2012

South Carolina - no Medicaid expansion or health exchanges..

https://www.facebook.com/NikkiHaley

South Carolina will NOT expand Medicaid, or participate in any health exchanges. We will not support Pres. Obama's tax increase or job killing agenda. I WILL do everything I can to get Mitt Romney elected and work to strengthen our Senate so that we can repeal this unAmerican policy aimed at moving our country in the wrong direction.
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South Carolina - no Medicaid expansion or health exchanges.. (Original Post) IamK Jul 2012 OP
Did you see the comments in response to that? drm604 Jul 2012 #1
Idle threats frazzled Jul 2012 #2
Idea Vietnameravet Jul 2012 #4
The right wing nutcase Republicans always do this. EFerrari Jul 2012 #6
There's no "the money" for Medicaid. Igel Jul 2012 #8
My first post Vietnameravet Jul 2012 #3
welcome to DU! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #5
Thanks Vietnameravet Jul 2012 #10
Ha! Her mods are deleting my comments. EFerrari Jul 2012 #7
Nikki looks pretty hot.... I give her a pass... IamK Jul 2012 #9

drm604

(16,230 posts)
1. Did you see the comments in response to that?
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jul 2012

There are a few speaking out for the poor and the sick, but most of the comments are in support of Haley. Sad.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. Idle threats
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:41 PM
Jul 2012

If they don't set up exchanges by the prescribed date, the feds, according to the new law, will be able to come in and set one up instead ... where all South Carolinians can shop for insurance.

If South Carolina wants to turn down 100% funding for Medicaid expansion (for the first several years, 90% thereafter), let them ... although I seriously doubt they will. If they do, however, I'm sure the federal government will find a way to extend Medicaid coverage to these people anyway, given that they were going to fully (for the first several years, 90% thereafter) pay for it anyway.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
4. Idea
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jul 2012

I think the Feds should give the money to other states..and make a big show of it..in fact there should be a procedure whereby the Governor of any state must ask for these funds and if they dont the money will be sent to those that do ask. How long do you think it will be before the Nikki's of the world change their pathetic tune?

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
6. The right wing nutcase Republicans always do this.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jul 2012

They kick and scream and say they won't take X and then, they do.

The hilarious part about this instance is that this program was written at the Heritage Foundation and first implemented by the Republican presidential nominee. Otherwise, it's like totally a liberal plot.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
8. There's no "the money" for Medicaid.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jul 2012

If Medicaid needs $1, then general tax revenues pay $1.

If Medicaid needs $100 billion, then general tax revenues pay $100 billion.

There's no dedicated pot of money set aside, nothing ever "left over" to be divvied up.

The amount of reimbursement is set by law. 50%? 85%? 90%? And it's set for all states. The states resport how much they spent, the records are spt-checked, and the states are reimbursed.

If the budget allows for $200 billion and $100 billion is spent, then the Congress could either ignore it and the money, though allocated, isn't spent (and the deficit is reduced--after all, we're still borrowing about a third of our federal budget) OR the Congress could decide to increase reimbursement rates. If they did the latter, then the states rejecting the ACA additional eligibility requirements + funding would simply see their reimbursement rates for other programs within Medicaid increased. It would help their state budgets.

If Congress does nothing, you know whoever the president and Congressional leaders are will do one of two things: Take personal credit for the deficit reduction (if that'll get them more points) or reallocate the money to some pet project.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
3. My first post
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jul 2012

Well I went to Nickki's site and posted messages of "support" such as:

I think governor should take the lead in denying health care to South Carolina citizens..Not that she hasn't made a good try at it.

Nikki keep up the good work! Under your guidance someday SC will be just like India!

I knew someday the Feds would get out of control the moment they abolished slavery..this is worse!

Yes it is such a shame.. much better to go without health care than be a slave!

Let's end Obamacare ..get those geezers off Medicare and Social Security as well. If you get sick and can't pay for it that is just the free enterprise system and if you dont like it move to Canada!


Finally I had to get serious so I posted:

Its really amazing seeing all the people who have insurance complain about a product they will not have to buy and a tax they will not have to pay..and where else but in America will overweight diabetics with cancer and heart disease complain about a health care plan!

I figure that you cant reason with them so you might just as well antagonize them!

I felt like saying the entire state is a monument to stupidity but ..I am too polite for that!

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