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elleng

(131,159 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:32 PM Jun 2020

Republicans breaking from trump like we've never seen.

Last edited Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:19 PM - Edit history (2)

'Much of the Trump presidency has been defined by the president’s uncanny ability to bring the GOP in tow, but in recent weeks — with the nation battling two separate crises and with the White House response to the turmoil under scrutiny — members of the party have begun to distance themselves from the president in unprecedented fashion.'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/06/11/republicans-are-breaking-from-trump-like-weve-never-seen/?

It is about time we appreciate when 'they' learn and do the right thing, and welcome them (IF we want to win and prevail, that is.)

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Republicans breaking from trump like we've never seen. (Original Post) elleng Jun 2020 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #1
Kick...good but too late, if you were on his side until now, you are forever on the wrong side of Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #2
yeah at the cost of tens of thousands of lives Skittles Jun 2020 #3
Good, They Should All Stay Home On 11/3 sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #4
The pathetic clown is going down. oasis Jun 2020 #5
You mean they've gone from being "concerned" or "troubled"... regnaD kciN Jun 2020 #6
+1 Vogon_Glory Jun 2020 #7
Well put! BlueMTexpat Jun 2020 #8
Where exactly are those on the Susan collins' concern-o-meter? madinmaryland Jun 2020 #18
I will beleive it when I see it. TristanIsolde Jun 2020 #9
Bit overstated. yellowcanine Jun 2020 #10
Ok, I'm a republican, but... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #11
Thanks, Amy-Strange. elleng Jun 2020 #12
You're welcome, but... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #14
Glad you're 'back!' elleng Jun 2020 #15
Me too, and... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #17
His article about going to the 1996 republican convention... Amy-Strange Jun 2020 #13
Best thing I've read today! elleng Jun 2020 #16

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. Kick...good but too late, if you were on his side until now, you are forever on the wrong side of
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jun 2020

history...but if it helps, good.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
3. yeah at the cost of tens of thousands of lives
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jun 2020

and a fucking white supremacist having hate rallies during a pandemic

they can all go fuck themselves; they very much helped to create this MONSTER

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
6. You mean they've gone from being "concerned" or "troubled"...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jun 2020

...to being "concernedly troubled," or "troubled in a concerned way?"

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
7. +1
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jun 2020

I haven’t seen congressional or senatorial Republicans (Mittsie excepted) show the gumption to part ways with their leaders for a quarter-century. It’s difficult to believe that their break is a real deal.

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
8. Well put!
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 03:51 AM
Jun 2020

I'll believe that they've changed when I see that we have Biden as President and "blue" majorities in Congress!

Until then, I remain skeptical.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
10. Bit overstated.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jun 2020

I don't see a lot of evidence of Republicans breaking. I see some Republicans pretending they have not seen or "studied' the latest outrage - not the same thing.

Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
11. Ok, I'm a republican, but...
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:59 AM - Edit history (1)

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in name only.

The reason is because a long time ago, after Washington State decided that voters had to chose a party, I was listening to Dan Savage explain why he was going to register as a republican.

https://www.thestranger.com/authors/259/dan-savage

I can't find the article right now (he has written over 12,000 articles), but basically his premise was that while he was pretending to be a republican, he would vote for the worst candidate and other nefarious acts of devious calculations that would help to delegitimize their party.

Long story short, I agree with your statement:

elleng: "It is about time we appreciate when 'they' learn and do the right thing, and welcome them (IF we want to win and prevail, that is.)"
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Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
14. You're welcome, but...
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jun 2020

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I've been here since 2003 (or thereabouts) under AmyStrange (w/o the dash), but I disappeared for a while and have been just too lazy to ask Skinner for my old UserID back.
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Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
13. His article about going to the 1996 republican convention...
Sat Jun 13, 2020, 09:03 PM
Jun 2020

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Saturday, August 10
Bob Dole is in big trouble.

This wholly unoriginal observation comes to me on my flight to San Diego via Reno, Nevada, "Home of America's Most Depressing Airport." Two little old ladies, identical twin sisters as it turns out, sit next to me on the plane. Alice and Antoinette's resemblance is obscured by the large, dark sunglasses Antoinette is wearing. Three years ago, Antoinette, lost her sight. "I was just driving along the road, when bang. It was like somebody turned the lights out" The sisters have been up in Seattle visiting an eye specialist. "That's visit, you understand. We don't say 'see the doctor' anymore," jokes the blind twin.

I tell them I am headed for the Republican National Convention, and in the best tradition of story-framing coincidences, it turns out that Antoinette was a delegate at the '45 and '52 Democratic National Conventions, and Alice is a lifelong Republican.

Expecting the question could very well end our conversation, I ask Alice and Antoinette what they think of the wrangling over the abortion plank in the Republican Platform. If not for her seat belt, Antoinette would have leapt out of her seat (7E): "Abortion should not be the government's business," thundered the blind, 85-year-old, practicing Catholic clutching the arm I was trying to steady my notebook with. "The government doesn't produce babies, women do. We should have the right to decide for ourselves!"

Antoinette will vote for Clinton this November, even though she doesn't think he's a very good president, "not compared to Truman or Roosevelt, at least." I ask Alice, the 50-year Republican, practicing Catholic, and anti-immigrant rancher, who she thinks she'll vote for "Don't know," she answers. "We'll have to wait and see. Probably Clinton." Bob Dole is in big trouble.

[SNIP]

https://www.thestranger.com/25-years-of-the-stranger/2016/10/12/24607050/dan-savages-san-diego-diary
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