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elleng

(131,006 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:13 AM Mar 2020

Coronavirus Is Advancing. All Americans Need to Shelter in Place.NYT

'The worst of the pandemic is yet to come. Listen to the medical experts. It’s time for a national lockdown.

President Trump needs to call for a two-week shelter-in-place order, now, as part of a coherent national strategy for the coronavirus to protect Americans and their livelihoods.

Once he does, and governors follow his request, there will be time to debate how soon some controls might be lifted, or how soon certain people, like those under a particular age, might be free to resume something like normal life.

There will be more time then to develop palliative treatments, and more time for the federal government to order up the test kits and ventilators needed nationwide. There will be more time to gather data about which regions, and which people, are most at risk.

But the United States has passed the point where aggressive, targeted efforts at tracking and containment, like those pursued by South Korea, have a realistic chance of success. And calls for voluntary social distancing have had mixed results, as the photos of spring breakers crammed together on the Florida beaches last week made clear.

We are not suggesting that Mr. Trump has the authority to order a national lockdown, much less advocating that he attempt to enforce one. Instead, we are urging him to use the bully pulpit to put pressure on, and provide political cover for, governors to take the hard steps that are needed.

As the president’s own health advisers warn, the worst of the coronavirus pandemic is yet to come. The nation’s slow and spotty response has allowed the virus to spread to every state. Modeling by researchers at the Imperial College London indicates that upward of two million lives could be lost to the pandemic unless America somehow manages to “flatten the curve.”

Some cities and states, and even entire nations, already have lockdowns in place.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/coronavirus-trump-lockdown.html?

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Coronavirus Is Advancing. All Americans Need to Shelter in Place.NYT (Original Post) elleng Mar 2020 OP
The virus can last in the respiratory tract up to 37 days. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #1
The primary thing that the massive cost of a total societal shutdown gets justified by is... RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
And that's the stone cold truth, I'm afraid. n/t Mister Ed Mar 2020 #3
And when the WHO offered him tests, he refused them. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #4
Bully pulpit fits better than ever doesn't it. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #5

RockRaven

(14,976 posts)
2. The primary thing that the massive cost of a total societal shutdown gets justified by is...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:33 AM
Mar 2020

TESTING. Testing, testing, testing. Testing every goddamned person in every city, town, hamlet, and village, and everywhere in between.

A two week shutdown doesn't "flatten the curve" enough to avoid massive numbers of deaths from overwhelmed medical systems if you don't use that 2 weeks to identify ALMOST EVERYONE who has the disease, symptoms or not. THEN you can isolate THEM instead of EVERYBODY. ANNNNNNNND you keep testing people, and isolate each and every new case, and their contacts (who you continue to test).

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TEST CAPACITY. Because this fuck-wit of a president wasted 2 months denying that he needed to do anything. And now it is too late.

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