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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:08 AM Oct 2019

If Trump Goes Down, He's Taking Everyone With Him

I was based in Washington and reported from Capitol Hill during Bill Clinton’s impeachment, which was the last time the country entered waters like these. It was ugly, and Democrats and Republicans traded vicious words.

But Clinton never publicly accused his detractors of treason or floated the idea that one of them be arrested on those grounds, as Donald Trump just did with Adam Schiff.

Clinton and his defenders raised the specter of a “vast right-wing conspiracy,” to use Hillary Clinton’s infamous phrase, thus asserting that he was being persecuted for his politics, not punished for his misdeeds.

But they didn’t insist, as Trump and his defenders routinely do, that a vital part of the federal government was an evil cabal intent on undermining our democratic processes, which is Trump’s self-serving characterization of the intelligence community. Their central strategy wasn’t to ignite a full-blown crisis of confidence in the institutions of government. They weren’t serving dire notice, as Trump essentially is, that if the president goes down, he’s taking everyone and everything else with him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/opinion/trump-impeachment-clinton.html

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If Trump Goes Down, He's Taking Everyone With Him (Original Post) Zorro Oct 2019 OP
"if Trump goes down, he's taking everyone with him." Meadowoak Oct 2019 #1
Dare we hope??? Ohiogal Oct 2019 #2
More republicans are now realizing that duforsure Oct 2019 #3
Let's hope he doesn't use bombs to do it.n/t Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #4
I've been saying it for some time amcgrath Oct 2019 #5
he cannot do it fast enough for me Skittles Oct 2019 #6
+100...n/t bluecollar2 Oct 2019 #7
Including the Country Hal Zerozerozeronine Oct 2019 #8

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. More republicans are now realizing that
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 08:49 AM
Oct 2019

And Putin could be one easily too. They will either turn against him and Putin, or end up in prison for everything they've been a part of, and they're seeing that too. Expect many more GOP members to turn very soon, or lose their re-election, and face prison. As more gets exposed more will try to escape their consequences and turn.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
5. I've been saying it for some time
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:18 AM
Oct 2019

Trump will not only try and pass responsibility to everyone around him, he will try and destroy former colleagues, opponents and departments and institutions, including the CIA and the FBI.

I don't think anyone who is even vaguely acquainted with his mentality would expect anything less. I suspect that he is in a more dangerous position than Epstein was. His assassination would allow the Republican Party to cleanse themselves in democratic strongholds, whilst making him a martyr to the cause in republican areas.

I sincerely hope he is kept safe to stand trial and serve his many sentences, but getting rid of him would be the logical thing for the Party, for many agencies and even other countries - Putin has even stressed the importance of keeping their phone calls secret, since the Ukrainian debacle.

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