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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:14 AM Jul 2019

"What I learned from my miscarriage" by Megan McCain. NYT 7/20/19

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/opinion/meghan-mccain-miscarriage.html

Why does she feel the need to reveal this?

The most obvious answer is the coldest: she wants publicity.

But, also: she is needy emotionally and wants sympathy. This is her way of getting it.

I am sorry she lost a pregnancy that she very much wanted. At the risk of sounding insensitive, I am wondering why she felt the need to announce it in the editorial pages of the NYT. And why the Times ran it.

I don't suggest she should hide it, unless she wants privacy. That is her business. But NYT editors have discretion over what they publish and don't publish.

Why her? Why now, O mighty NYT?
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"What I learned from my miscarriage" by Megan McCain. NYT 7/20/19 (Original Post) CTyankee Jul 2019 OP
Her emotional and intellectual growth are stunted. pangaia Jul 2019 #1
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with her. She's been acting up on The View lately, too (altho CTyankee Jul 2019 #3
Maybe because Rebl2 Jul 2019 #23
Don't the right wing nutzo types FarPoint Jul 2019 #2
I did wonder about that. But she kept it closer to her own predicament. CTyankee Jul 2019 #4
And women who has Iliyah Jul 2019 #5
Megan, your fellow party members think you should go to jail because your pregnancy ended Aristus Jul 2019 #6
I dunno. I smell a republican rat here. If so, expect someone on the right to bring her miscarriage CTyankee Jul 2019 #9
Is Mike Pence going to make her MontanaMama Jul 2019 #7
There are two ways of looking at this. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #8
She may have those thoughts, altho it seems to me that a miscarriage usually elicits sympathy CTyankee Jul 2019 #10
for sympathy, attention, to push her anti-abortion agenda and demonstrate her "moral superiority" hlthe2b Jul 2019 #11
Why do you think the liberal NYT published it in the OpEd pages? CTyankee Jul 2019 #12
I'm sure they were convinced by her comments re: wanting to destigmatize miscarriage hlthe2b Jul 2019 #13
Who stigmatizes a miscarriage? CTyankee Jul 2019 #14
No 'human' would, but the recent attacks on abortion are going to scoop these women up too. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #16
She needs to quit the view and focus on getting pregnant kimbutgar Jul 2019 #15
There is a lot of truth to what you say, IMO CTyankee Jul 2019 #17
Okay, Wellstone ruled Jul 2019 #18
As immature as she is, she doesn't need a child. blueinredohio Jul 2019 #19
"spontaneous abortion" cyclonefence Jul 2019 #20
To me, it's basically the same "pro-life" dogma: insisting sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #21
And if that is her belief, then she is welcome to have it. CTyankee Jul 2019 #22

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. Her emotional and intellectual growth are stunted.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:17 AM
Jul 2019

She is dead as a human being.
She needs others to confirm her existence.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. Yeah, something is definitely wrong with her. She's been acting up on The View lately, too (altho
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jul 2019

she always acts up on the show). Maybe Trump has forever smashed her belief in the Republican Party and she is finding it hard to recover.

Work it out with counseling, Megan. This stunt with the NYT will not help you as much as counseling.

Rebl2

(13,523 posts)
23. Maybe because
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jul 2019

she had a miscarriage is why she has been acting out so much. I don’t understand the NYT putting it on the editorial page.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. I did wonder about that. But she kept it closer to her own predicament.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:25 AM
Jul 2019

We'll see if she starts a crusade on The View. I don't think Joy or Whoopi will put up with it, however.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. And women who has
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jul 2019

similar experiences concerning miscarriages would be condemned and sent to jail for a crime by her Republican party.

Inasmuch as I grieve for her, the child and her family, this reminds of me Melanie's - "Be Best, no bullying" campaign.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
6. Megan, your fellow party members think you should go to jail because your pregnancy ended
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jul 2019

without their permission.

I'm guessing you didn't learn that...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I dunno. I smell a republican rat here. If so, expect someone on the right to bring her miscarriage
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:55 AM
Jul 2019

up in a twisted way to condemn abortion. I don't put anything past these folks.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
8. There are two ways of looking at this.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jul 2019

One, Meghan McCann is a very emotionally needy person. She is example 1A in "the money can't buy you happiness" club. Regardless of the fact that she is an heiress to a 100 million dollar fortune, she is an embittered person. Who knows why some people are what those who speak Yiddish call farbissener.

That said, I think the issue of miscarriage has long been one that society finds difficult to discuss in the open. Many women are private people who would not choose to speak about it openly, but the flip side is that miscarriage creates terrible suffering and it is made worse when women feel they must suffer in silence.

I don't know what McCann's motivation is, but it could be that she does want to help others who are deeply hurt by the loss of a pregnancy. We can't get inside her head.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. She may have those thoughts, altho it seems to me that a miscarriage usually elicits sympathy
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

from the most pro-choice women. The loss of a much wanted pregnancy is sad. It has happened in my own family and we all felt deep sorrow and loss. And we are all prochoice Dems.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
11. for sympathy, attention, to push her anti-abortion agenda and demonstrate her "moral superiority"
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jul 2019

You pick it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. Why do you think the liberal NYT published it in the OpEd pages?
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jul 2019

I think that is strange. I wonder what went on behind the scenes at the Times re publishing this as an OpEd. It had to have a strong opposition.

You offered a number of reasons and I choose "moral superiority." She has been under attack on The View for a while now and I think her moral superiority is the best answer.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Who stigmatizes a miscarriage?
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jul 2019

I am strongly pro-choice and I have nothing but sympathy for a woman who has lost a wanted pregnancy. It happened in my own family with two pregnancies! The couple found a doctor who could do in vitro and after a couple of failed tries, succeeded. And now we have a wonderful little boy and I have another grandson! But we all didn't learn about the failed tries and that was their choice.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
16. No 'human' would, but the recent attacks on abortion are going to scoop these women up too.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jul 2019

Women WILL be ultimately questioned as to whether their miscarriage was "really" spontaneous. Heaven forbid poor women, especially poor women of color. Even if they are not able to be "charged", they will be hounded by those prosecutors willing to abide by these laws (if they are not clearly struck down by courts).

So, stigmatizing in normal settings? Hell no. In regressive anti-choice states? Yeah, it is coming.

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
15. She needs to quit the view and focus on getting pregnant
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jul 2019

The stress of being a fox sychopath on a liberal talk show is too hard for her

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. There is a lot of truth to what you say, IMO
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

She herself has sorta said this. In some way, I think she blames the liberal media for her stress and eventual miscarriage. Maybe a period of rest and recuperation for her wounded soul will help her regain her reproductive health.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Okay,
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jul 2019

is Megan thinking about a Political Career? If so,is she playing to the Reich Wing of Arizona,especially the Mesa crowd and Sadona? That's the money areas and mostly White. Or is her Hubby going to make a run? Remember he is a member of the End timers.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
20. "spontaneous abortion"
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:59 PM
Jul 2019

Wikipedia:

Miscarriage, also known as spontaneous abortion and pregnancy loss, is the natural death of an embryo or fetus before it is able to survive independently. Some use the cutoff of 20 weeks of gestation, after which fetal death is known as a stillbirth.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
21. To me, it's basically the same "pro-life" dogma: insisting
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

that embryos are 'children' at the moment of conception.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. And if that is her belief, then she is welcome to have it.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jul 2019

Medically, it is pretty indefensible. But medical science goes out the window for those who believe that life begins at conception, period, the end.

She can believe it, espouse it, advocate for it. No one is or will be forcing her (or anyone else) to have an abortion. That is called CHOICE. And you, Megan, have choice. And the pro-choice side is predicated on a woman's right to make those moral decisions on her own, and not having it taken away by the state. See how that works?

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