Moderate Democrats Warn That AOC Is Distracting From Their Nonexistent Message
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/moderate-house-democrats-the-squad-trump-racism-media-aoc-pelosi.htmlModerate Democrats are sick and tired of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her squad dominating the headlines. Thus, to ensure that those four progressive congresswomen do not garner any additional media attention, several House moderates decided to complain about them anonymously in interviews with CNN Wednesday...
If your goal is to galvanize media attention around bread-and-butter issues, whining to Jake Tapper seems like a less effective tactic than, say, taking interesting stances on bread-and-butter issues. And yet, as Voxs Matt Yglesias notes, it has been House moderates not Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, or AOC who have prevented House Democrats from advancing several of their most compelling messaging bills. Nancy Pelosis caucus finally passed a $15 federal minimum wage Thursday. But Pelosi had promised to pass that (popular) policy within 100 hours after assuming the speakership. Instead, it has taken seven months for her to grind down moderate opposition.
Meanwhile, centrist Democrats have blocked their party from passing a bill that would allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices, a measure that would effectively transfer large sums of money out of Big Pharmas profit margins and into seniors pockets. This a winning issue in every district in the country (at least, if you value the approval of voters more than lobbyists). A recent Kaiser Family Foundation poll found that 86 percent of Americans approve of Medicare negotiating lower drug prices. There is a reason that Donald Trump pretended to support such a policy through the bulk of his presidential campaign, and is now desperately searching for more industry-friendly means of pushing down the cost of pharmaceuticals. The GOP cannot compete at the national level without winning an outsize share of older voters. And older voters cannot stomach the rising cost of their pills. This gives Democrats a golden opportunity to expand their coalition by gaining the upper hand on a high-salience issue: As the party thats less allergic to price controls, theyre well-positioned to give a right-leaning constituency something it desperately wants, but cannot get from the GOP.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)I will read the article, but... damn...
joet67
(624 posts)stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)the single tenuous foothold we currently have on any branch of government. But they're obviously just a bunch of darned whiners and crybabies! Sick of their sniveling!
Buzz cook
(2,472 posts)I would be willing to bet that he cherry picked responces from staffers and some representatives, then massaged it into a controversy.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)We are more united than ever.
hack89
(39,171 posts)It wasnt progressives that werent flipping red seats in 2018 and it wont be progressives flipping red seats in 2020.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)
His primary opponent was endorsed by the California state party - he was not the choice of local progressive activists who are already on record as saying the will "keep a close eye on him." He was a registered Republican before being an independent for 20 years. He first registered as a Democrat in 2017.
stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)let's not let the facts stand in the way ...
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)All of Rouda's positions are quite progressive. He was endorsed by Indivisible in the primary.
https://indivisible.org/statement/indivisible-candidate-harley-rouda-wins-ca-48-0
I campaigned for Rouda in the primary, knocking on doors in my neighborhood for him. He has my very progressive endorsement!
I am not sure what hack89 means by the "DCC." If he means the DCCC, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, they endorsed all Dem House candidates running in November. They did not endorse Rouda over his primary opponent in the CA primary. They don't do Dem primary endorsements as far as I know. A DCCC endorsement is not a mark of being a moderate. It is a mark of being a Democrat.
Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican as well. Would you call her a moderate Dem or a progressive? Do you think she should be accused of "some contortion."
Rouda, like Warren, grew up with Republican parents, and started out Republican. Then both saw the light and are fierce progressives now. I love them both. What do you have against them?
So do I. Some people are just troublemakers.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)What is the "DCC"? If you mean the DCCC, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, they endorsed all Dem House candidates running in November. They did not endorse Rouda over his primary opponent in the CA primary. They don't do Dem primary endorsements as far as I know. A DCCC endorsement is not a mark of being a moderate. It is a mark of being a Democrat.
Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican as well. Would you call her a moderate Dem or a progressive?
hack89
(39,171 posts)A November 2012 press release described the organization as "Congress's largest coalition of "moderates" heading into the 113th Congress.
Entering the 116th United States Congress, the New Democrats have 101 members, making them the largest caucus in the Democratic Party, and the second largest in Congress altogether (after the Republican Study Committee).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat_Coalition#California
We flipped six seats in California - four were members of the New Democrat Coalition(Josh Harder, Katie Hill, Katie Hill, Harley Rouda).
Americans want common sense for common ground. I think Im a moderate. I do talk about open Medicare-for-all. I want to open up a public option. Its a buy-in. Its just an option. Second: Reinstate the individual mandate. Third: Take off the shackles to allow Medicare to negotiate pharma prices. Those are three moves we can make without inadvertently disrupting our economy.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/charlie-rouda-california-751280/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/us/harley-rouda-congress-republican.html
And lets not forget that 2018 was the first time since 2006 that the DCCC partnered with the Blue Dog PAC - the Blue Dogs alone flipped 7 seats. The Blue Dog caucus has never been bigger. I don't think you can't argue that progressives are the major driving force in the party.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)But his actual positions on issues are quite progressive (for an American politician). That is why Indivisible endorsed him. Read his positions on his campaign website: https://harleyforcongress.com/issues/index.html
In the Rolling Stone article you cite, they asked him how he will "frame" himself against Dana Rohrabacher. He responded that he thinks he's a moderate compared to "extreme" Dana Rohrabacher. I think that is quite correct. American progressives' positions are quite moderate compared to the political parties of the world. And Harley saying he thinks he's a moderate (much like Obama said about himself) was certainly smart framing for Orange County.
We all know he used to be a Republican, but when you look at Harley's actual positions NOW, they are bold and progressive (again, in the context of an American politician). From his above campaign website:
-Tuition-free public college: "To level the achievement gap once and for all, we need to invest in universal Pre-K; we need to phase in tuition-free education at non-profit public colleges and universities."
-Gun Reform: "We need to implement mandatory background checks for all gun buyers, including online, at gun shows, and even for 3-D printed guns. We need to prevent all convicted domestic abusers from buying guns and once-and-for-all close the so-called boyfriend loophole. And we need to ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines, ban the sale of guns to violent criminals and the mentally ill, and ensure that every gun-buyer is subject to an appropriate waiting period for all purchases."
-Green new jobs: "Republican leaders in Washington continue to deny the threat of man-made climate change, the pristine natural beauty which makes our home district so special is under attack. I am working to protect Californias most precious asset, our beautiful coastlines, from new offshore drilling. We need to focus on consistently choosing clean energy over the fossil fuels of the past.
-Get Money out of politics- pledged to "not take money from Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big Pharma or the Gun Lobby -- or any corporate PAC."
-Health Care as a Right - Medicare for All as goal: "While the Affordable Care Act was not perfect, it was a step in the right direction. The ACA did well to prohibit discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions and to allow children to stay on their parents plan until age 26. However, instead of working to adjust, reform, improve and expand the ACA, Republican leaders in Washington have taken to playing politics with Americans health care." "I believe our nations health care system reflects how we treat each other in times of need. We need to join the rest of the advanced world and finally ensure that health care coverage is a right for every American. To achieve this goal, we must pursue Medicare for all as a long-term solution; we must attend to the nations most pressing public health crises, such as the opioid crisis, by prioritizing treatment and prevention efforts and ending the overprescription of painkillers; and we need to empower and expand organizations like Planned Parenthood, who help fill the void of our fragmented health care system."
So, hack89, how is that significantly different than, say, AOC's positions? Harley is certainly more low key than AOC, but he is fighting for the same goals. It appears the main difference is he thinks it will take longer to achieve these goals than AOC does, and that they will need to be be phased in to avoid disruptions.
I was at the town halls he had in the beach towns of Orange County. It was him touting those progressive positions that got the crowds fired up and applauding.