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appalachiablue

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Sat Mar 2, 2019, 01:29 AM Mar 2019

Pence Says 'Freedom' Ended Slavery & Defeated Hitler,' In Annual CPAC Speech

"In 'Historically Dubious' CPAC Speech, Pence Claims 'Freedom' Ended Slavery." "Think he's arguing that capitalism ended slavery which is... an interesting perspective!"- Christopher Mathias, HuffPost. By Eoin Higgins, Common Dreams, 3/1/19.

Vice President Mike Pence on Friday said that "freedom" ended slavery and defeated Hitler—a claim that was derided as historically inaccurate by critics. Speaking in front of a packed house at the 2019 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), Pence said that "freedom"—an apparent stand-in for capitalism—was the reason for the major global and American victories of the past two centuries. "It was a freedom, not socialism, that ended slavery, won two world wars, and stands today as the beacon of hope for all the world," Pence declared...

In an essay, Newsweek politics editor Jason Le Miere pointed out that Pence's quote cut both ways, even though the vice president didn't acknowledge the other side of the coin: If it was freedom that ended slavery then presumably it was also freedom that allowed it, with a provision written into the Constitution that specifically referred to slaves and the "three-fifths compromise," whereby they were counted as less than free people. Moreover, Southern states continued to argue for the freedom to keep slavery in place as the country descended into the Civil War.

It's also worth noting that before and during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln exchanged letters with a strong supporter overseas—a German living in London named Karl Marx. Pence wasn't exactly telling the truth about the 20th century either, La Miere continued. Pence’s claim about the ending of the World Wars is also historically questionable. The Soviet Union, under communist control, played a crucial—to some historians the most crucial—role in defeating Nazi Germany in WWII...

More, https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/03/01/historically-dubious-cpac-speech-pence-claims-freedom-ended-slavery

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Mar 2019

'Pence Continues WH/GOP Push To Paint Dems As Socialists,' Roll Call, March 1, 19

Vice President Mike Pence warned a conservative audience Friday that allowing Democrats to gain more power would mean allowing them to enact “tired” policies that amount to socialism. “Over the next 20 months, we have a decision to make, will we re-elect a president who is making America great again?” Pence asked. “Or will we let America take a hard left turn?” The crowd roared boos.

“Under the guise of Medicare for All and a Green New Deal, Democrats are embracing the same tired economic theories that have impoverished nations and stifled the liberties of millions over the past century,” Pence said to applause. “That system is socialism. “And the only thing green about the so-called Green New Deal is how much green it’s going to cost taxpayers if we do it: $90 million,” he said. Democrats have said the price tag would be lower than the figure Pence quoted. More, http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pence-continues-white-house-gop-push-to-paint-dems-as-socialists/ar-BBUg0JK?ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

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