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question everything

(47,486 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:18 AM Jan 2019

A Way Out of the Shutdown - WSJ Editorial

With the partial government shutdown now into its second week, Donald Trump appears to have no good exit strategy. That’s not surprising since he had no entry strategy. Sounds like it’s time for the President to follow the escape route offered by Senator Lindsey Graham and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, among others, and offer a larger immigration bargain.

As it stands Mr. Trump is in a box canyon of his own design. He can capitulate to the Democratic offer of $1.3 billion for border security and be accused of surrender by his supporters. Or he can continue the budget stalemate and endure escalating political damage as the press blames all and sundry ills on the shutdown of 25% of the government.

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Enter Mr. Graham, who said Sunday that he’d like Mr. Trump and the Democrats to negotiate a trade of border money in exchange for legalizing the so-called Dreamers. Those are the adults who were brought to the U.S. as children and are in legal limbo after Mr. Trump rescinded Barack Obama’s diktat offering them temporary legal status. The courts have stayed Mr. Trump’s rescission order, but sometime this year they will rule on the merits. Mr. Trump has a strong legal case.

Such an offer would reset the terms of the budget fight so it’s about something more than money and the wall. Mr. Trump would be offering Democrats something they claim to want, and they’d look small and cynical if they failed to consider it. Democrats would have to explain to Dreamers and their families why they prefer to deny Mr. Trump a half victory rather than improve the lives of hundreds of thousands of anxious young adults.

Mr. Trump would take some heat from the restrictionist right that would call any legalization “amnesty.” But these are the same voices denouncing him for not getting funding for the wall. They can’t have it both ways. House Democrats aren’t going to give Mr. Trump money for the wall unless they can tell their voters they won something too.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-way-out-of-the-shutdown-11546298309 (paid subscription)

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A Way Out of the Shutdown - WSJ Editorial (Original Post) question everything Jan 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Jan 2019 #1
WSJ editorial page. shanny Jan 2019 #2
For President Obama, it's a "diktat" PJMcK Jan 2019 #7
It's the Whore Street Journal at work... Aristus Jan 2019 #12
You could say such a bargain is a win-win or you could say it's an abject surrender, but... Girard442 Jan 2019 #3
So Donnie is holding both government workers *and* dreamers hostages, unblock Jan 2019 #4
nope. torius Jan 2019 #5
How can you make a deal with a man who never keeps his word? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #6
Who takes advice from Scarsdale Jan 2019 #8
Nope. Not good enough, now. marybourg Jan 2019 #9
real way out kjohn Jan 2019 #10
LOL SunSeeker Jan 2019 #11

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shanny

(6,709 posts)
2. WSJ editorial page.
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:39 AM
Jan 2019

Generally speaking their reporters are good but their editorial page writers are whacks.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
7. For President Obama, it's a "diktat"
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 04:43 AM
Jan 2019

But for Trump, it's an Executive Order."

President Obama's orders were legal, moral and correct. Trump's are stupid, illegal, immoral and indefensible.

Because of the WSJ's semantics, I'm scratching my head.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
3. You could say such a bargain is a win-win or you could say it's an abject surrender, but...
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 02:04 AM
Jan 2019

...how could you ever negotiate any bargain with someone who's ignorant, irrational, and a compulsive liar?

unblock

(52,253 posts)
4. So Donnie is holding both government workers *and* dreamers hostages,
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 02:08 AM
Jan 2019

And the right-wing wsj editorial board figures democrats would do well to have the terrorist-in-chief release one set of hostages?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. Who takes advice from
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:32 AM
Jan 2019

crooks such as Graham and Gingrich? Both are tainted. Far from upstanding statesmen. Gingrich was shoved out for unethical acts. Graham is just an echo chamber for whatever tRump decides he wants. Still, since tRump DOES take advice from Limbaugh and Coulter, who can say what he will do?

kjohn

(1 post)
10. real way out
Wed Jan 2, 2019, 11:08 AM
Jan 2019

dems pass a budget with wall funding by a WALL street tax that would tax the 1 percent for building and maintaining the wall. The senate will not pass the bill because of the tax increase. senate rejects the WALL street bill and wallah, no funding for the wall.

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