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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,664 posts)
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:33 PM Aug 2018

In closed-door meeting, Trump told Christian leaders he got rid of a law. He didn't.

That Trump is lying is not newsworthy.

David Fahrenthold Retweeted:

The most remarkable part of Trump's closed-door meeting with evangelical leaders is that he spent most of his time bragging that he's gotten rid of the Johnson Amendment, which they, of all people, know he has not gotten rid of.



No.

The most important part of his meeting is his loud dog whistling to his base to get ready to use force to keep him in office by creating an enemy of the far-Left he falsely claims will use violence to overthrow him.



"We were in the 68th floor of Trump Tower and we looked down on the sidewalks and there were thousands and thousands of people. They looked like ants, little people going all over — boom, boom, boom."



In closed-door meeting, Trump told Christian leaders he got rid of a law. He didn't.

According to recorded excerpts of private remarks, he said evangelicals were "one election away from losing everything."

by Aliza Nadi and Ken Dilanian / Aug.28.2018 / 4:00 PM ET

In a closed-door meeting with evangelical leaders Monday night, President Trump repeated his debunked claim that he had gotten "rid of" a law forbidding churches and charitable organizations from endorsing political candidates, according to recorded excerpts reviewed by NBC News. ... In fact, the law remains on the books, after efforts to kill it in Congress last year failed.

But Trump cited this alleged accomplishment as one in a series of gains he has made for his conservative Christian supporters, as he warned "You're one election away from losing everything that you've got," and said their opponents were "violent people" who would overturn these gains "violently." ... Trump addressed the law and the upcoming midterms in private remarks Monday during a dinner with evangelical supporters at the White House after the press left. ... At stake in the November midterms, Trump told the audience, are all the gains he has made for conservative Christians.

"The level of hatred, the level of anger is unbelievable," he said. "Part of it is because of some of the things I've done for you and for me and for my family, but I've done them….This November 6th election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment." ... If the GOP loses, he said, "they will overturn everything that we've done and they'll do it quickly and violently, and violently. There's violence. When you look at Antifa and you look at some of these groups — these are violent people."
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Politifact, the nonpartisan fact checking organization, rated Trump's claim that he got rid of the Johnson Amendment "mostly false" when he first made it publicly in July 2017.
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In closed-door meeting, Trump told Christian leaders he got rid of a law. He didn't. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 OP
LOOOK at that money grubbing Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #1
Closed door meeting with evangelicals... Raster Aug 2018 #2
+1 2naSalit Aug 2018 #5
Can i get a witness. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #7
On this National Day of Prayer, let us remember Jefferson's prayer, shared with Madison. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2018 #3
The mid-terms are going to be Trump's Reichstag fire VMA131Marine Aug 2018 #4
I don't understand. Please, someone explain this to me. Control-Z Aug 2018 #6
It means they were drinking the sacrificial wine. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #8
He was high ... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #10
Interesting wording. area51 Aug 2018 #9
So he bore false witness? They'll kick him to the curb for that for sure. Aristus Aug 2018 #11

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. LOOOK at that money grubbing
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:39 PM
Aug 2018

sucker bitch standing next to him. LOOK at that bitch. Encourages sending money for gods blessing. UGGHHHHHHHH.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. Closed door meeting with evangelicals...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:40 PM
Aug 2018

...I guess they didn't want any witnesses when they kissed satan's Orange Anus*.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
7. Can i get a witness.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:45 PM
Aug 2018

So true. Why are churches in hidden meetings? Bc he's telling them to campaign for them, and they are all ears. They'll get their abortion ban and tax free and they will have cheated to get it as well. Religion sucks across the board now.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,664 posts)
3. On this National Day of Prayer, let us remember Jefferson's prayer, shared with Madison.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:41 PM
Aug 2018

I'm running this again.

On this National Day of Prayer, let us remember Jefferson's prayer, shared with Madison.

I wonder what jefferson would say about the media these days, maybe change his mind?, Post #5:

The comments going back and forth in Trump v. Clinton look like a tea party (you know what I mean) compared to the discourse back then.

Jefferson and Madison just detested Patrick Henry.

Ken Cuccinelli Once Filed An Amendment To Change Virginia's State Song To The Beatles' “Taxman”

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Patrick Henry wasn't quite as opposed to taxes as Cuccinelli made him out to be. Though it is not widely known now, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison absolutely detested Patrick Henry. Why? Because Patrick Henry wanted to tax citizens to pay the salaries of clergymen.

I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.

For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry

Categories: Uncategorized

by Chris Rodda

So, today {January 16} is Religious Freedom Day, the anniversary of the passage of Thomas Jefferson’s Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. No, I’m not going to post Jefferson’s statute; I’m going to post something cooler than that — one of my favorite lines ever written by Jefferson.

The background: Jefferson drafted his religious freedom statute in 1777 and introduced it in 1779, but it didn’t go anywhere. It wasn’t until 1786 that Jefferson’s statute was passed. Jefferson was in France at the time, so it was Madison who reintroduced the religious freedom statute. This was right after James Madison defeated Patrick Henry’s bill to tax everybody in Virginia to support teachers of the Christian religion.

Jefferson couldn’t stand Patrick Henry and his theocratic agenda, and made this quite clear in one {of} his letters to Madison while Madison was battling Henry’s bill for a Christian religious tax. When Madison wrote to Jefferson asking what they should do about Henry, Jefferson replied:

“While Mr. Henry Lives another bad constitution would be formed, and saddled for ever on us. What we have to do I think is devoutly to pray for his death …”


Of course, the Christian nationalist history revisionists either ignore this line from Jefferson, or claim it is made up by evil secularists to impugn the character of our very Christian founding fathers.
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{This is} from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to James Madison on December 8, 1784, and can be found on pages 353-354 of The Republic Of Letters, The Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison 1776-1826, Volume I.

Patrick Henry was the first governor of Virginia, and Thomas Jefferson was the second. We really got off to a great start, didn't we?

If only Cuccinelli knew Virginia history.

VMA131Marine

(4,157 posts)
4. The mid-terms are going to be Trump's Reichstag fire
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

He's already setting up the outcome as illegitimate if Democrats win control of the House. You think he's rogue now; just wait, you ain't seen nuthin'.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. I don't understand. Please, someone explain this to me.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:22 PM
Aug 2018
"We were in the 68th floor of Trump Tower and we looked down on the sidewalks and there were thousands and thousands of people. They looked like ants, little people going all over — boom, boom, boom."


WTF does it mean? I mean, I really feel like I need to know.
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