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underpants

(182,823 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:03 PM Jun 2018

Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va) explains why red states are turning blue.

Rep. Dave Brat: When red states go blue

People fed up with high-tax, slow-growth areas of the country migrate in large quantities to low-tax, high-growth areas of the country. Despite fleeing areas with less favorable economic conditions, when they get to the low-tax, high growth areas, they vote in favor of policies that undermine the economic environment they were attracted to in the first place!

Simply put, flourishing red areas of the country are in danger of being distorted by failing blue-state economic theories.

Recent Census data (2014) shows that the top seven states with the biggest percentage increases in in-migration — those gaining in number of residents — are North Dakota, Nevada, South Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Arizona, and Texas. All red states except Colorado, which is purple.

The top states with the biggest percentage out-migration, which is to say the states losing the most residents, are Alaska, New York, Illinois, Connecticut, New Mexico, New Jersey, and Kansas. All these states are blue, except Alaska and Kansas.

http://www.richmond.com/opinion/their-opinion/guest-columnists/rep-dave-brat-when-red-states-go-blue/article_880e9456-6043-5a0b-a576-1ed37903837c.html

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Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va) explains why red states are turning blue. (Original Post) underpants Jun 2018 OP
Where is California?????? Iliyah Jun 2018 #1
From the article. underpants Jun 2018 #2
Cal is high growth, high tax, esp. gas tax. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #3
This guy claims to be a social scientist but spooky3 Jun 2018 #4
He actually was an Econ Professor at Randolph-Macon underpants Jun 2018 #5
Climate tazkcmo Jun 2018 #6
Amen! Pls. let me know you find a nice, reasonably priced place to live, ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2018 #10
Thank you tazkcmo Jun 2018 #11
Yup, he ignores the aging baby boomer population retiring. We know he's a shitty rep, he's FSogol Jun 2018 #8
Half-backs underpants Jun 2018 #9
Bingo liberal_patriot_md Jun 2018 #12
Not much of a background or record, assoc. w BB&T Bank, libertarian, appalachiablue Jun 2018 #7

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Where is California??????
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jun 2018

Lots of people are moving back south, although lots of people are coming in as well.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
2. From the article.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:17 PM
Jun 2018

New York wasn’t the only state hemorrhaging population. California had 65,546 migrants to Texas.

While we’re looking at California, you may know that Orange County is famous for being the only Republican stronghold along the Pacific Coast. Unsurprisingly, the American Community Survey also found that one of the largest county migration flows was folks moving from Los Angeles County to Orange County.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Cal is high growth, high tax, esp. gas tax.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:31 PM
Jun 2018

But it has lost a lot of people who cannot afford to live there any longer, and attracted a lot who have money to feed the
real estate bubbles.
a lot of properties are bought with cash, in Cal. and in other Pac. NW areas. Good for the money launderers, bad for the people who get priced out.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
4. This guy claims to be a social scientist but
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jun 2018

proposes cause-effect relations and misinterprets data in ways that would earn him an F in Econ 101, Soc 101, etc.

For example, what’s the role of climate in this (lots of people moving from colder states to warmer ones as the population ages and retires)? Where are they moving within states after they leave their states (often to blue cities, not red areas, to get jobs)? For example, blue NoVA, which he hates, and other urban areas within VA, support the rest of the state with tax transfers. North Dakota has net inflows because of pipeline jobs. If he looks at data across another period would the results be the same?

underpants

(182,823 posts)
5. He actually was an Econ Professor at Randolph-Macon
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 09:18 PM
Jun 2018

In the 90's R-M was where the potheads from the private schools went.

Speaking of climate - he doesn't consider the possibility of retirees making these moves. For the environment and/or lower cost of living.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
6. Climate
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jun 2018

It's why I am leaving Kansas City. Cold weather causes me pain and I can't endure another KC winter. I'm also a skinny dude which doesn't help coping with the cold.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
10. Amen! Pls. let me know you find a nice, reasonably priced place to live, ...
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jun 2018

that is warmer.

For the first time in a long time, Spring of 2018 took seemingly forever to get here (I live in Saint Louis MO) and I was really, really getting tired of winter in Missouri.

I'm getting tired of bringing plants inside/outside every year, I'm getting tired of the humidity, and the oppressive heat too (when you live in a river valley).

Good luck to you and of course, best wishes!!

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
11. Thank you
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jun 2018

I can handle the heat great. My friends think I'm weird and I guess I am. Lol

I am headed west, thinking Eugene,Or. I was watching their weather this winter it and was usually at least 10 degrees warmer than here.

I don't need tropical just not miserable!

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
8. Yup, he ignores the aging baby boomer population retiring. We know he's a shitty rep, he's
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jun 2018

probably a shitty econ professor too

underpants

(182,823 posts)
9. Half-backs
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 10:19 AM
Jun 2018

Funny thing I ran into recently. Retirees from the northeast and Midwest who began retirement in Florida have started moving halfway back into N. Carolina even Tennessee. It's half the travel for grandkids and the cost of living is much lower than Florida.

Brat's reputation at R-M is mixed. The students seemed to love him but I don't know that he was really that highly regarded.

liberal_patriot_md

(194 posts)
12. Bingo
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jun 2018

One of his arguments was based on how many people are moving from NY to FL.

Guess what? It’s been like that for decades. Seinfeld based multiple episodes on that premise.

This is not a new phenomenon.

Retirees have been moving from the north to the south for decades for warmer climate and cheaper cost of living. Has zero to do with blue state economic policies.

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
7. Not much of a background or record, assoc. w BB&T Bank, libertarian,
Tue Jun 5, 2018, 02:12 AM
Jun 2018

semi Tea Party, Christian conservative. Go back to Michigan Dave. Virginia attracts plenty..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Brat

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