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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,490 posts)
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 12:53 PM Feb 2018

Martins Beach billionaire owner takes fight over public access to US Supreme Court

Hat tip, AboveTheLaw: Non-Sequiturs: 02.25.18

Previously at DU: Martins Beach access bill headed to governor

Martins Beach billionaire owner takes fight over public access to US Supreme Court

By Bob Egelko and Jenna Lyons Updated 5:21 pm, Friday, February 23, 2018

California courts say Martins Beach, a picturesque haven near Half Moon Bay, should have its gates opened to the public, despite the objections of its billionaire owner. Sometime in the next few months, the nation’s highest court will decide whether to weigh in.

“No property right is more fundamental than the right to exclude,” lawyers for Vinod Khosla said Thursday in asking the U.S. Supreme Court to grant review of the case. They said the state courts, in their rulings against Khosla, wrongly decided that “owners of private beachfront property in California may not exercise that right without first obtaining the government’s permission.”

Khosla, co-founder of Sun Microsystems, bought Martins Beach and surrounding coastal lands from their longtime owners for $32.5 million in 2008. He shut the public access gate in September 2010, citing the cost of maintenance and liability insurance. The previous owners had admitted the public for at least 70 years.

After a series of back-and-forth rulings, a San Mateo County judge ruled in 2014 that Khosla should have obtained a development permit from the California Coastal Commission before shutting the gates. A state appeals court agreed in August, saying the closure was a type of property development that required the commission’s approval.
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Bob Egelko and Jenna Lyons are San Francisco Chronicle staff writers. Email: begelko@sfchronicle.com, jlyons@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @BobEgelko, @JennaJourno
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Martins Beach billionaire owner takes fight over public access to US Supreme Court (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 OP
If that's his Faux pas Feb 2018 #1
No one really owns the beach Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #2
In California, everything below the high tide line is public property, IIRC hatrack Feb 2018 #4
Sounds right, but the access road with locked gate is above the high tide line. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #5
California guarantees public access to all mean high tide beaches in their state constitution Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #7
If he can't "own" the road that goes through his property, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #9
Oh he can own the road, he just can't own the access. Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #10
fuck 'im.... dhill926 Feb 2018 #3
Fuck him JI7 Feb 2018 #6
I hope SCOTUS respects Ca courts & upholds clear & longstanding Ca State law stuffmatters Feb 2018 #8

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
2. No one really owns the beach
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 01:22 PM
Feb 2018

If he wanted beach access control he should of bought land in Florida or another foreign country

Actually throughout the US you can not own the beach. All you can own is access through the property you own in front of the beach. People can still land boats on the beach in front of your property. Florida routinely allows owners to prevent access to the beach in front of their property. California not so much.

This is all about buyer be ware. He is not king and can't own anything his little self thinks up. He knew when he bought the property that it had an access road.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
5. Sounds right, but the access road with locked gate is above the high tide line.
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:43 PM
Feb 2018

So, does the public have the right to use a private road (I assume it's not a public road) on someone's property? An interesting question.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
7. California guarantees public access to all mean high tide beaches in their state constitution
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:05 PM
Feb 2018

And I think they codified it 1976. Unlike Florida and numerous other states, beach access to the public through land connections is not sold off to property owners. In Florida you can control access to the beach along your property and even prevent the public from using the beach. Not so in California.

He should have bought a beach in another state.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
9. If he can't "own" the road that goes through his property, ...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:58 AM
Feb 2018

... then hopefully the U.S. Supreme Court will decline to hear his case.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
10. Oh he can own the road, he just can't own the access.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:33 AM
Feb 2018

If he wants to stop maintaining the road that was there when he bought the land, he needs to apply for a permit. Which he refuses to do because he claims it will be denied. It's like refusing to file your taxes because you know it will be wrong.

It's as if you own 100 acres but don't own the mineral rights. If an oil corporation knows there is oil in the middle of your land, the state will allow them access to that oil through your property.

So if he does not put up a gate and lets the road deteriorate, probably no one would have cared. But he insists on blocking with fencing and gates the access to that beach.

I'm not sure the Supremes are in favor of beach access as a state controlled right. It kind of depends on who has paid for their last speaking engagements or who their wife works for.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
6. Fuck him
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

The rules regarding access to the beach was known. He should not have bought it if he had a problem with it.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
8. I hope SCOTUS respects Ca courts & upholds clear & longstanding Ca State law
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:12 PM
Feb 2018

Just another glaring example of spoiled billionaires using our courts&, wasting our precious taxpayer money for their own greedy egos.
It's what they do, and WE have to pay for this shit instead of real priorities...(eg. more public defenders)

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