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no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
1. I've known of a situation or two where long-term adultery actually prevented a bad
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 05:55 PM
Feb 2018

marriage from terminating. The husband was a devoted father and didn't want to abandon his children. His wife had reciprocal adultery and her only satisfaction in the marriage was demeaning and humiliating this guy at every opportunity. She threw knives and heavy glass flower vases at him. She screamed at the kids and hit them. He considered leaving her, but the children were too compelling in the equation. He knew he'd never get them if he applied for custody and she'd probably move out of state just to spite him.

The man found a woman who loved him. She wasn't especially interested in marriage although she did have qualms about their relationship. He often told her that she kept him from going crazy in a very dysfunctional marriage.

While this reeks of moral relativism, adultery is like most things: not an absolute lesson in ethics.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. We have a friend whose adultery ended a once happy marriage...
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:09 PM
Feb 2018

His daughters stopped speaking to him or letting him see his grandkids. That was almost 10 years ago and only now are now speaking to him again. The hurt runs deep and runs long.

I think the worst scenario is when the "other woman" is a friend of the wife's. That's a double whammy.

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
3. I can understand the sense of betrayal, especially if the kids felt that they had a happy and
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:16 PM
Feb 2018

intact family and an interloper broke it up.

What the kids don't see if the actual dynamic of the marriage.

A wise friend told me that only two people in the marriage truly know the truth of it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. Hypothetically speaking, looking at the long line years in my rear view mirror...
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

I would have reacted much differently to adultery when I was a young bride, versus later years.
That is partly because of context of the era involved, which placed more moral condemnation on the wife, versus the husband, playing around.

We can see the context change in our political history, as well. McCain, and Gringrich, and..oh yes, Guiliani, all of whom cheated on more than one wife, and 2 of them did so when the wife in question was very ill.
And yet, unlike the Eisenhower, or even the Nixon years, it did not end their political life.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I remember the Eisenhower years and thinking that the scandal was so long ago he might not
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:34 PM
Feb 2018

have even been capable of a physical affair at his age. But still, the emotional affair was so bad it had to have affected Mamie.

I know we've had adulterers in the White House before....but this is BAD...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. i agree...very bad.
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:55 PM
Feb 2018

The moral things Trump is accused of would have resulted in a shamed resignation and a Congressional backlash.
Now, it's "boys will be boys" and nothing happens.

Still some lines have been upheld..Roy Moore, for one. But his election was still kind of up in the air, until his darling wife did an Archie Bunker on live tv. THAT was the moment he lost voters. Her smug bigotry was replayed all over the place, including Facebook and YouTube.

Nitram

(22,892 posts)
11. Adultery is often (or usually) a symptom of a serious issue in a marrriage that needs to be
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 09:40 AM
Feb 2018

resolved through couple's therapy. Yes, I'm sure it is sometimes the result of one partner being a selfish, immoral jerk, but in my estimation that is the exception rather than the rule.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
12. I would say no, but why even waste time in an unhappy relationship?
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:13 AM
Feb 2018

Just get out and save everyone unnecessary trouble.

I don't understand why people go to such great lengths to save broken relationships.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. when you have children and want to keep the marriage intact for their sake, that's why.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:29 AM
Feb 2018

I know that can be a mistake but that is a strong reason.

Once you are free from a broken marriage and a cheating spouse, you can do amazing things. You can seek another partner. I met my second husband at a Parents Without Partners party. 32 years later we are still together...

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