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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 08:02 AM Jul 2017

Quit defending Obamacare! Lets fix it by moving toward a single-payer system

SUNDAY, JUL 2, 2017 06:00 AM EDT
Hey, Democrats: Quit defending Obamacare! Let’s fix it — by moving toward a single-payer system
Obamacare was a historic accomplishment. But single-payer or a "robust" public option are now achievable goals
BILL CURRY

I’ve spent my life in politics, and the health care bill Mitch McConnell appears so desperate to revive is the single worst piece of legislation I’ve ever read. I say “appears” because I still can’t quite believe he wants to pass it. Its actual enactment would threaten his Senate majority as surely as it would the health of tens of millions of Americans. McConnell’s judgment is so clouded by partisanship and ideology one can easily see how he’d be blind to the bill’s moral dimensions. What’s harder to accept is that so sly a political fox wouldn’t sniff the enormous risk.

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This fight feels like a reprise of the Democrats’ 2016 presidential campaign, heavy on moralizing, light on detail. Now as then, the words Democrats live by — “Why take a chance?” and “Don’t scare the donors” — leave them precious little to say. Sixty percent of Americans favor single-payer health care. Zero percent of Democratic leaders in Congress stand with them. The only other practical way to cut costs is a public option. Democrats only whisper its name. Why risk getting lost in the policy weeds or ruffling the feathers of their sometime allies in the insurance industry?

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In 2008, candidate Barack Obama backed a public option and opposed a mandate that would force people to purchase insurance. He observed drily, and correctly, that the main reason most people don’t buy health care is because they can’t afford it. His chief primary opponent, Hillary Clinton, promised the opposite: a mandate but no public option. Obama made other related promises, among them that he’d allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. He even vowed to let C-SPAN cameras into heretofore secret health care negotiations.

In office, Obama reversed himself. In early 2009, in meetings to which he forgot to invite C-SPAN, he made private pacts with leaders of the insurance and drug industries. He dropped negotiated drug prices and the public option, and picked up Clinton’s mandate. Experts said he needed it to pay for the whole thing. But it also guaranteed insurers permanent, expanded control of the “market.” According to his own analysts, he thus passed on the two greatest sources of savings in his entire plan.

The fatal flaw of the Affordable Care Act is that it costs too much....

http://www.salon.com/2017/07/02/hey-democrats-quit-defending-obamacare-lets-fix-it-by-moving-toward-a-single-payer-system/

Bill Curry was White House counselor to President Clinton and a two-time Democratic nominee for governor of Connecticut. He is at work on a book on President Obama and the politics of populism.

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MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
1. Great read!
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 08:37 AM
Jul 2017

Again, it's up to "Progressives" to get things moving in the right direction.

GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE!!!

still_one

(92,219 posts)
3. Well, perhaps if Salon hadn't been bashing and undercutting Hillary every chance of the way last
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 09:54 AM
Jul 2017

year, single payer would be part of the discussion.

Mr. Curry starts flaunting how he proposed it in Connecticut, but I don't see Connecticut having single payer. In fact, Mr. Curry, a two-time Democratic nominee for Governor of Connecticut wasn't able to win his attempts at that.

He takes the opportunity to go after President Obama on the ACA, ignoring that we didn't have the votes for single payer. The blue dogs, refused to go along with single payer, a public option, and even Medicare for everyone 55 and older was rejected by them.

Of course being true to Salon's tradition, the article also gets its slights in toward Schumer and Pelosi.

Perhaps if Curry pulled his head out of his ass, and worked with Democrats, instead of bashing them every chance he gets, things would be different, but Mr. Curry instead prefers to refight the primaries.

One of Mr. Curry's wonderful advice in 2015 was to, "advocate that “progressives” abandon the Democrats in an act of “tough love”

Besides the election irregularities, and the FBI interference, Mr. Curry, Salon, and the other parts of the so-called progressive media did their part to insure a trump victory.

f**K YOU William Curry.

I think Nina Turner and you would make a fine match.




kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. Since he is spot on re the policy issue at hand...
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jul 2017

I guess your obnoxious personal attack is all that you have left.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
7. Why would I listen to someone who tells progressives to abandon the Democratic party. He doesn't
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jul 2017

want to move forward on single payer, or anything else for that matter. If he did, he wouldn't go out of his way, like he does in most of his articles to never miss a chance to bash Democrats, instead of trying to convince them.

My post is an "obnoxious personal attack". Don't make me laugh. This ass constantly makes PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST DEMOCRATS

It is ok for him to do it, but gee, if anyone says a disparaging word about him, "that is a personal attack"

bullshit.

I will be more than willing to fight for Single Payer, and work to push it, but I'll be damned if I will entertain a blowhard who all he wants to do is refight the primary instead of moving forward because his candidate didn't win.


kristopher

(29,798 posts)
9. Frankly, your opinion has become meaningless.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 12:43 PM
Jul 2017

Shit-stirring about the election is well past its expiration date.

Nitram

(22,813 posts)
6. Don't confuse refusing to vote for Trumpkare with "defending Obamacare."
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jul 2017

We all agree that the ACA was never allowed to be fully implemented, and I agree that the best way to "fix" Obamacare is to move toward single payer.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
8. That is typical Bill Curry, setting up false equivalencies. Not only does it distract from Single
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 11:54 AM
Jul 2017

Payer, but it divides Democrats.

You push for single payer by contacting your representatives and senators, and asking them to do just that.

and yes, at the same time you ask them NOT to repeal the ACA until there is a replacement that is better than the ACA, and that includes Single Payer. Both are perfectly in line with each other. It isn't an either or situation, especially since we don't have the majority in Congress



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