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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:59 PM Mar 2012

Will People Alive Today Have the Opportunity to Upload Their Consciousness to a New Robotic Body?

When Steve Jobs passed away last year, a joke bounced around--not that there was anything particularly funny about it--that the man who had done so much to shape modern technology hadn’t really died at all, but rather had figured out how to upload himself into the Mac OS so he could live on with us, and with his products, forever. The notion was ostensibly so far out as to be ridiculous. But not everyone sees it that way.


http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-03/achieving-immortality-russian-mogul-wants-begin-putting-human-brains-robots-and-soon

Here is something else the 1% can spend their money on........

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Will People Alive Today Have the Opportunity to Upload Their Consciousness to a New Robotic Body? (Original Post) MindMover Mar 2012 OP
People alive today? Possibly, but probably not. RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #1
The technological singularity is only 20 years away. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #11
heard about this from son wendylaroux Mar 2012 #2
When they try, I think they will be unpleasantly surprised at the results saras Mar 2012 #3
So is this the beginning of full-prosthetic cyborg bodies? kentauros Mar 2012 #4
Be careful what you wish for flobee1 Mar 2012 #7
Yes, I am well-aware of what that movie (and subsequent series) kentauros Mar 2012 #8
does that mean sick days will be replaced by flobee1 Mar 2012 #12
Cyborgs don't need Viagra kentauros Mar 2012 #13
I hope not. When I see the haters growing ever more powerful the only solace Vincardog Mar 2012 #5
I Have No Mouth.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #6
However, Robinette Broadhead (of the Heechee Saga) kentauros Mar 2012 #9
Yup. I plan on living forever! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #10
I find this and the general "Beam me up, Scotty" premise to be flawed IDemo Mar 2012 #14
 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
1. People alive today? Possibly, but probably not.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:05 PM
Mar 2012

I won't have that opportunity, but maybe some kid born yesterday will.
I think that sort of thing is still at least a century away.
If we make it that long...

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
3. When they try, I think they will be unpleasantly surprised at the results
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Mar 2012

All the input from the body will be replaced by garbage, as we haven't done any serious research in understanding any of this since the pharma companies took over psychology. The "people" will rapidly go insane in ways we have no way of relating to.

Maybe a few hundred years after THAT, it might work. We're at the Leonardo DaVinci stage, not the H.G. Wells stage. The changes required are in human understanding, not technology, so they aren't going to happen quickly.

Realistically, I think if we do this for real, that it will be workers and not the 1% that it is done to, and it won't be done well, just well enough to replace a damaged worker's body with another functional one.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
4. So is this the beginning of full-prosthetic cyborg bodies?
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:26 PM
Mar 2012

For example, the following opening of the movie "Ghost in the Shell" titled "The Making of A Cyborg"





flobee1

(870 posts)
7. Be careful what you wish for
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 08:20 PM
Mar 2012

The gist of that movie is how people were being hacked into and their minds replaced so that they would do others bidding.

ghost transfer by microsoft? no thanks!

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
8. Yes, I am well-aware of what that movie (and subsequent series)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:28 PM
Mar 2012

is all about. And Section 9 solved the case

Also, I would suspect that were that technology to be invented, and by the Japanese, that they wouldn't bother with any existing branded-OS. It would be their own proprietary OS, assuming it even worked that way at all.

What's the "OS" of the human mind?

flobee1

(870 posts)
12. does that mean sick days will be replaced by
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 12:23 PM
Mar 2012

"reboot" or "virus scan" days?


it turns my stomach now to see how the news channels and advertising has such influence over people-just imagine having a programmable brain?


I can just imagine the effect adware would have on you-walking down the street shouting "free viagra" at the top of your lungs! lol

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
13. Cyborgs don't need Viagra
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012


But I would guess there would have to be laws against such "infiltration". Otherwise, who'd want to become a cyborg at all?

Now, there's no reason why you couldn't walk down the street naked, just painted (or projecting) the latest advertising, like "car-boards" now. You get a deposit to your account once a month for participating, and then it all shuts down when your contract expires

And who wouldn't want to see naked cyborgs when they look like The Major or Batou?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
5. I hope not. When I see the haters growing ever more powerful the only solace
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:41 PM
Mar 2012

I have is knowing that eventually they will die and there is the chance that their evil can be reversed.
Can you imagine if Murdock or Limpballs became an immortal being?
Or worse imagine Darth Chenney.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
9. However, Robinette Broadhead (of the Heechee Saga)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:38 PM
Mar 2012

didn't have a problem with or being a "programmed personality" such as in The Annals of the Heechee

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
14. I find this and the general "Beam me up, Scotty" premise to be flawed
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 09:51 PM
Mar 2012

In either case, you're proposing that a sufficiently close copy of yourself not only thinks it's you, it is you, when in fact it is nothing more than a backup. Your backup may have all of your memories, thinking habits, likes and dislikes and be utterly indistinguishable from the original you, but the original is still an entity unto itself. Having a spare to go into work for you on occasion might be great, but the idea that such an "upload" makes death immaterial for the original is nonsensical.

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