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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:14 AM May 2016

Donald Trump's kryptonite: millions of active – and furious – Latino voters

Barely a day goes by when Donald Trump offers Latino something new to get riled up about. In a “Cinco de Mayo” tweet on Thursday, for example, he declared “I love Hispanics!” in the caption to a selfie that showed him digging into a “taco bowl” at his desk.

“This can’t be serious,” said my Mexican cousin. “No words,” wrote a Cuban colleague. “No” and “disgusting” were just some of the other comments my Latino friends – both Democratic and Republican – posted after I uploaded a screen shot of the tweet to my Facebook page.

The presidential candidate started his campaign by saying that Mexicans are rapists and criminals. He then extended his hateful remarks to include those “coming from all over South and Latin America” and the Middle East, vowed to deport all undocumented immigrants and bar all Muslims, and proposes rescinding birthright citizenship and building a great wall between us Mexico. And yet, he is now the presumptive Republican nominee.

And it’s apparently dawned on him that he might need some of the approximately 27.3 million Latino eligible voters to cast a ballot for him if he actually wants to win.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/09/latino-voter-turnout-trump-kryptonite

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Donald Trump's kryptonite: millions of active – and furious – Latino voters (Original Post) bemildred May 2016 OP
I hope they're even more active by Nov 8. marble falls May 2016 #1
Latino voters will be voting against Trump in massive numbers Gothmog May 2016 #2
I hope so. bemildred May 2016 #3
Oh the Civil War most people get it wrong. gordianot May 2016 #4
"Do what you want" can lead to difficulties when you need to resolve your differences. nt bemildred May 2016 #5
That is a basic dilemma for the human condition. gordianot May 2016 #6
It's only difficult if you aren't willing to compromise. bemildred May 2016 #7
Good summation that is what happens. gordianot May 2016 #8
Thank you. I read a lot. bemildred May 2016 #9
Some claim the American Civil war sprang from the English Civil War. gordianot May 2016 #12
Yes, the "Cousins Wars". bemildred May 2016 #15
I think he's "stepped in it" big-time and there's no going back ailsagirl May 2016 #13
Well, him for sure, this time around. nt bemildred May 2016 #16
and as we saw in East LA, Clinton's kryptonite too MisterP May 2016 #10
Just an anecdote... neeksgeek May 2016 #11
Drumpf thought that's what he had to do to win their support ailsagirl May 2016 #14
+1. nt bemildred May 2016 #17

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I hope so.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

If he manages to pry Latinos of all stripes away from the Republican Party as fully as the AA community already has been, it will all be over for the divisive politics of the last 60 years or so. You ain't going to win any more national elections here with race-baiting non-whites.

We may get another civil war out of it, too, but that needs to be put to rest finally one way or another, it's been 150 years now. We've had enough of the assholes running things here.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
4. Oh the Civil War most people get it wrong.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016

It was a clash between Equality-Civility vs Liberty (Do what you want). In theory Equality Civility won but the Liberty do what you want side has never been able to resolve their differences. Too bad both are necessary.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
6. That is a basic dilemma for the human condition.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

....and is not that hard to understand but very difficult to fix.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. It's only difficult if you aren't willing to compromise.
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

If you are willing to compromise on the issues at hand, then equality and civility provide a sound basis to resolve them. If you for one reason or another aren't willing to compromise, then the matter will not get resolved, or will be resolved by force.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
8. Good summation that is what happens.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

My favorite class to teach was the American Civil War. You would have got an "A".

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. Thank you. I read a lot.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

It's an old story. Nomad vs Agriculturalists, Mercenary enterpreneurs like Cortez vs settled states throughout the history of civilizations. Plains indians vs the farmers here too. We are not all that well domesticated yet. One of the best reasons to have an inclusive society is so you won't have anybody hacking away at you from outside. Everybody has something to lose if you do it right.

But this place started out with explorers and people looking to strike out on their own, to get away, and we still have a lot of that sentiment here.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
12. Some claim the American Civil war sprang from the English Civil War.
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:48 PM
May 2016

The Roundheads have commonality with the Union versus the landed gentry Cavaliers. Odd how universal conflicts repeat themselves. Yes A+.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
15. Yes, the "Cousins Wars".
Tue May 10, 2016, 03:06 AM
May 2016

Cromwell, American Revolution, American Civil War.

One of my nephews introduced me to that idea a few years back. Good book about it too.

I think it has a lot of explanatory power, it helps you see certain things, I like it, but I don't know that I'd want to predict anything based on it.

And those are my people, the pasty-whites, for sure, both sides.

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
13. I think he's "stepped in it" big-time and there's no going back
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

I can't see how he can possibly redeem himself with Latinos-- they know the score

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
11. Just an anecdote...
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:39 PM
May 2016

Dinner with my wife's family last night - they are all Mexican, except for me and my brother in law.

Trump isn't getting votes from them. Nobody at the table thought the taco bowl stunt was very cute!

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
14. Drumpf thought that's what he had to do to win their support
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

How insulting for them and how seriously asinine of him!!

Keep it up, Drumpf!!

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