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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:35 AM Apr 2016

One American Dies Every 16 Minutes From Lack Of Affordable Health Care In US: Study

See:

More Americans gain health coverage, but many can’t afford to use it: doctors group:http://www.pnhp.org/news/2015/september/more-americans-gain-health-coverage-but-many-can%E2%80%99t-afford-to-use-it-doctors-grou

Census Bureau says number of uninsured has dropped to 33 million in wake of Affordable Care Act, but is silent on problems of rising deductibles, copays, coinsurance and narrow networks that deter people from seeking care

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

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“The Census Bureau’s official estimate that 33 million Americans lacked health insurance in 2014 reflects a significant and welcome drop from the 42 million it reported as uninsured in 2013,” said Dr. Robert Zarr, president of Physicians for a National Health Program, today. “But the number of people who remain without coverage is still intolerably high. And the Census Bureau report leaves entirely unmentioned the millions of people who have health insurance but who can’t afford to use it because of high deductibles and copays.”

“Having health insurance is better than not having coverage, as several research studies have shown,” Zarr, a Washington, D.C.-based pediatrician, continued. “For example, the 33 million people the Census Bureau says were uninsured in 2014 means that approximately 33,000 people died needlessly last year because they couldn’t get access to timely and appropriate care.” He cited a landmark study in the American Journal of Public Health showing that for every 1 million persons who are uninsured in a given year, there are about 1,000 deaths linked chiefly to that factor.

“That’s an unnecessary death every 16 minutes,” Zarr said. “That’s completely unacceptable. Moreover, the Congressional Budget Office predicts at least 27 million people will be uninsured every year for the next 10 years – so that’s tens of thousands of preventable deaths, year in and year out.

“And keep in mind that even if all the states had accepted the Medicaid expansion, about 24 million people would still be uninsured under the Affordable Care Act,” he said. “We simply can’t go on like this.”

Zarr pointed out that the problem of underinsurance – i.e. of people having skimpy policies with high deductibles, copays, and other forms of cost sharing that deter them from seeking care and that leave them vulnerable to financial distress and medical bankruptcy in the event of serious illness – is not something the Census Bureau addresses in its annual reports. But it should take this question up, he said, especially in view of how rapidly the problem is worsening.

“A recent study by the Commonwealth Fund shows that about 31 million people who have health insurance – nearly a quarter of all non-elderly adults – are underinsured, nearly double the rate in 2003,” Zarr said. “Of these, 44 percent went without a doctor’s visit, medical test, or prescription due to cost, while 51 percent had problems paying off medical bills or were paying off medical debt over time.

“The average deductible – i.e. before insurance kicks in -- for families with popular silver plans in 2015 is estimated to be $6,010, and out-of-pocket costs for copayments and deductibles, after premium payments, for a family of four with an income of about $60,000 per year can be as high as $13,200,” he said. “And of course this applies to ‘in network’ services only. Out-of-network costs can go much, much higher. Such financial barriers are untenable, economically and morally.”

“In short, under the new health law we’re witnessing a dramatic acceleration of the trend of shifting more and more medical costs onto the shoulders of patients and their families, even as medical costs and premiums rise and as private health insurance companies reap record profits.

“How is it possible that in 2015 one of the richest countries in the world still does not guarantee every resident the right to health care?” Zarr continued. “This question would not be necessary if we had a health care system worthy of the name – single-payer national health insurance, or an improved and expanded Medicare for All.”

“A single-payer system would achieve truly universal care, affordability, and effective cost control. It would put the interests of our patients – and our nation’s health – first.”

Zarr continued: “Our patients, our people and our national economy cannot wait any longer for an effective remedy to our health care woes. The stakes are too high. We need to move beyond the administratively wasteful, complex and inadequate ACA to a more fundamental, comprehensive single-payer national health program for all.”

Physicians for a National Health Program (www.pnhp.org) is a nonprofit research and education organization of more than 19,000 doctors who support single-payer national health insurance.

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One American Dies Every 16 Minutes From Lack Of Affordable Health Care In US: Study (Original Post) Baobab Apr 2016 OP
Neither Hillary not Trump give a flying fuck about that. djean111 Apr 2016 #1
Crime against humanity Baobab Apr 2016 #4
Hillary does not want Medicare for All and her husband was gonna strike at SS so you don't think bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #2
I agree with the PNHP My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #3
You put your finger on the problem right there. Baobab Apr 2016 #8
They will bring in workers from developing countries and pay them very little Baobab Apr 2016 #30
I can see how hospital systems and health insurance companies would My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #33
It will get worse under Mrs. Clinton (or any of the republicans). "Expand Obamacare" means expand Doctor_J Apr 2016 #5
Do you think globalizing healthcare provision will cut costs (wages, etc?) Baobab Apr 2016 #6
Horrors. A medical education costs a fortune in the US. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #15
We cant go back in time to 1994 and reverse progressive liberalization. Baobab Apr 2016 #22
One of the benefits of progressive liberalisation is elimination of state owned enterprises and Baobab Apr 2016 #23
Yes. And the more they pay, the more it puts cash in the economy. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #38
I was mostly talking about GATS and TiSA Baobab Apr 2016 #39
Standstill clause in the 1998 Understanding on Committments in Financial Services will mean ACA may Baobab Apr 2016 #11
Businesses have to be profitable, and public healthcare is not allowed Baobab Apr 2016 #31
Serious centrists agree that this is the best way Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #7
Actually, you're repeating a myth with zero basis in fact. Baobab Apr 2016 #9
I'm referring to the cost benefit of early die off. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #10
Sorry, even if you are right from the insurers or governments POV Baobab Apr 2016 #12
I think he is being sarcastic. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #13
hmmm... Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #16
Cost controls are FTA-illegal Baobab Apr 2016 #32
Indeed, which is why serious centrists agree Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #34
Don't kid yourself. Baobab Apr 2016 #36
'Merica! Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #14
No Single Payer health care under Hillary or Trump fasttense Apr 2016 #17
Thirdway Incrementalism = no single payer Phlem Apr 2016 #18
We're too exhausted to return to the healthcare issue... Bodych Apr 2016 #19
Good parts of the ACA wil get repealed because of HRC solution Baobab Apr 2016 #21
I hope you realize... Bodych Apr 2016 #24
the Understanding on Financial Services includes a general standstill obligation. Its not flexible. Baobab Apr 2016 #25
Something like this might help- Baobab Apr 2016 #27
"We the people" SmittynMo Apr 2016 #20
It probably makes less difference who we elect at this point as the obligation was incurred in 1994 Baobab Apr 2016 #26
I am the proud recipient ... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2016 #28
Thank God for you. Thank God for the VA. Baobab Apr 2016 #29
We used to have stuff like Central Health districts libodem Apr 2016 #35
You must be destitute first Baobab Apr 2016 #37

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
4. Crime against humanity
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

They will face criminal prosecution in the future.

Since the government already pays 2/3 of US healthcare costs and that is basically what single payer would cost us, there is NO EXCUSE not to implement it.

Medical experimentation on humans without informed consent is a crime against humanity and there is no statute of limitations for crimes against humanity.

So those responsible will eventually pay for the murders of hundreds of thousands or millions of Americans killed by their huge crime.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
2. Hillary does not want Medicare for All and her husband was gonna strike at SS so you don't think
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

she will...you are mistaken.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
3. I agree with the PNHP
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:42 AM
Apr 2016

What can we expect from the next administration, though? I don't know. I don't know what the first step toward improving the system that we have would be. With insurance companies currently dropping out of the exchanges, it seems to prove that they are not good faith actors in the struggle to improve health care for all Americans.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
8. You put your finger on the problem right there.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

"With insurance companies currently dropping out of the exchanges, it seems to prove that they are not good faith actors in the struggle to improve health care for all Americans."

You have to understand that this issue goes back several decades to the Clinton Administration and even before. I think 1992 was the last year that a majority of US wage earners could afford to buy adequate health insurance in the nongroup market.

So to head off the changes which were expected and prevent single payer - steps were taken then that today make it much different than it was before the Clinton Administration. Basically, a war is being fought all around the world to privatize permanently- and lock in the US model- on .... (the following is a legal standard)

'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;

(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."

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Can you see my .sig? Read the paper linked in it.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
30. They will bring in workers from developing countries and pay them very little
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

to solve our "crises" in healthcare, education, IT, energy, construction and so on.

Every area where workers are overpaid.

The 20 years of negotiations on Mode Four and the "Disciplines on Domestic Regulation" are almost completed.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
33. I can see how hospital systems and health insurance companies would
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

bring in cheaper labor, but I don't see how that would change the mortality rate cited in the OP. It would only give hospital chains and insurance companies larger profits.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. It will get worse under Mrs. Clinton (or any of the republicans). "Expand Obamacare" means expand
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

profits for the insurance companies. People who vote for this are disgusting low-lifes.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
6. Do you think globalizing healthcare provision will cut costs (wages, etc?)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

For example, allowing recognition of licenses from other TiSA and WTO countries so that doctors and nurses from the rest of the world can work in the US under "movement of natural persons" provisions in FTAs. (so called "Mode Four&quot

Its all completely legal, they have been planning how its going to be done for a long time.

Education too.

Other countries staffing firms are gearing up to help us solve our labor shortage.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Horrors. A medical education costs a fortune in the US.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

To solve our labor shortage in the medical field, we need to have free tuition at state colleges and universities AND medical schools.

The idea of importing doctors and nurses from the rest of the world is just insulting. It is horrible. Worst thing I can think of.

No. No. No. Nothing against people from other countries or professionals from other countries. But let's educate Americans first. It's a terrible idea to impose brain drains on other countries that also need medical personnel in order to have a short-term money-saving racket for our healthcare.

No way.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
22. We cant go back in time to 1994 and reverse progressive liberalization.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

That would be like eating a twenty two course meal and not paying for it at the end.

The word "progressive" in that context means irreversible.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
23. One of the benefits of progressive liberalisation is elimination of state owned enterprises and
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

replacement with market based solutions. You cant just reverse 22 years of policy - and cancel negotiations in Geneve which have been going on since 2006.

For example;



what would we tell the 50 or so countries we've made give up their public services so they could be modern and trade with us? Trade services with us? (the reward for market liberalisation) What about all those businesses that expect to be able to subcontract under FTAs and lower their staffing costs?

All the pending deals?

Do you want millions of man hours and 20 years of talks to go to waste just because a few hundred million protectionists want healthcare and decent wages? Who the hell do they think they are!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
38. Yes. And the more they pay, the more it puts cash in the economy.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

I do you want millions of man hours and 20 years of talks to go to waste just because a few hundred million protectionists want healthcare and decent wages? Who the hell do they think they are!

I take it you are being sarcastic. I think these free traders are full of it. They don't know what they are talking about or doing. They are wrong, wrong, wrong.

I am for Bernie, not for the TPP.

Market economics has been debunked by Thomas Pikkety. There is no saving the theory and its associated theories. It's junk economics. (I am not an economist, but I have common sense.)

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
39. I was mostly talking about GATS and TiSA
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Also TTIP and TPP.

Services = Jobs - another definition used is "Everything you cannot drop on your foot" the official definition of public services is very very narrow, and most of what we think of as public services must be privatized so they can be crapified and globalized - basically done by the lowest bidder.

"For the purposes of this Agreement…

(b) 'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;

(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."


What is TiSA?

This is a video about TiSA, basically the new plurilateral "PTA" which has been described as "GATS on steroids" (because it uses something called "negative list" which includes all service sectors and modes of supply by default- UNLESS THEY ARE CARVED OUT NOW- hear that people? Public services must be carved out now...or President + Congress + Senate will have NO POWER TO CHANGE ANYTHING LATER - We'll be screwed).



Here is a comparison between TiSA and GATS

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
11. Standstill clause in the 1998 Understanding on Committments in Financial Services will mean ACA may
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

be repealed like Glass-Steagall was.

The 1998 Understanding on Committment in Finacial Services contains a standstill clause - WTO jurisdiction which kicks in when it becomes international trade, will apply, which means that nonconforming measures in service sectors subjected to GATS are subject to standstill, rollback and ratchet clauses. Which means that any challenge of things like guarateed issue is guaranteed to succeed. Because they are trade barriers. Suppose a health insurance company from Bananastan wants to enter our market, they can successfully petition WTO to strike any changes here since 1998 that adversely impact their profitability. (That would also include any applicable minimum wage laws - if they applied- although its not at all clear to me if they would to L-1 visa holders, I have read things that indicate they may not) Anyway, basically they can challenge the whole ACA or anything else that has changed since the date in 1998 that the Understanding became effective- anything that forced them to accept lower profits (including pay their staff more.) The lesson is, pass all your minimum wage increases, make any future law changes forever, before signing any trade deals!

Read the paper in my .sig, it explains the problem.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
31. Businesses have to be profitable, and public healthcare is not allowed
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

I thought this was all settled in 1994 when President Clinton signed GATS.

Now the world has to privatize.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. Serious centrists agree that this is the best way
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016

to control costs and keep our healthcare industry profitable.

This is why I am a serious centrist for Hillary.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. I'm referring to the cost benefit of early die off.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

Surely all of us serious centrists can agree that killing off potential clients reduces costs.

This is why I am a serious centrist for Hillary.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
12. Sorry, even if you are right from the insurers or governments POV
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

I am NOT going to get into this discussion with you.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
16. hmmm...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

I think I'm going to have to be more of a centrists instead of a hard-left democrat like I am if I'm going to bring myself to be able to vote for Hillary in the event that she wins the primary.

I'm going to have to accept corporate involvement in all aspects of my life, unnecessary wars, and a love for Wall Street if I'm expected to vote for Hillary in the general election. Corporate healthcare and their focus on saving costs and making profits over saving lives is more important. The majority of democrats say so. Expecting otherwise makes me an extremist.

I hate those damn liberal extremists expecting that their government serve the people that pay the taxes and not the corporations that get away without paying taxes I can'

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
32. Cost controls are FTA-illegal
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Just thought you should know.

Like subsidies, they are trade distorting. Just think of the slippery slope cost controls would bring us as automation progresses and jobs vanish.

Profits would fall.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
34. Indeed, which is why serious centrists agree
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

that free trade agreements that place arbitration boards above sovereign nations are an excellent idea.

I think the automation problem will sort itself out as more and more people take advantage of early termination.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
14. 'Merica!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

Freedom! Gotta love it!

(I hope I don't need to throw in that I'm being completely sarcastic here)

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
17. No Single Payer health care under Hillary or Trump
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

They have both made that perfectly clear.

So, suffer with what you got.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
18. Thirdway Incrementalism = no single payer
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

They don't care about Hillary's IRAQ war vote either, so other people lives, who gives a shit.

I cornered one about the slow frog march and got crickets.

I've cornered quite a few of them on facts and all I get is crickets.

All they truly care about is a female president, not about how she's going to run the country, just that she's female. And yes I've seen those in threads too.

One told me Sanders was a self serving elitists for caring about other people over himself.

They have officially gone off the cliff edge and they want the rest of us to follow along.

Bodych

(133 posts)
19. We're too exhausted to return to the healthcare issue...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

...maybe under Hillary's new and improved ACA plan, we can reduce dead people stats to one every 17 minutes.

Is that good enough?

Until then, please stop bringing up this issue. We're tired. We're exhausted. We don't want to rock the boat anymore.

It took me about 16 minutes to write this...like most of you, I'm very weakened by the original debate, so things take longer now...somebody turn out the lights on another American.

And don't forget to unify.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
21. Good parts of the ACA wil get repealed because of HRC solution
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

which is to bring in lots of low wage foreign professionals in fields like healthcare, education, IT, energy (green jobs), construction, etc. to make them more profitable (this has been planned for 20 yrs and gone through endless negotiations in at least a half dozen "Minesterials" for example, Doha Round, Cancun, Hong Kong, Bali, Nairobi, etc) and has always gotten hung up on this Mode Four issue - , And other fields where wages here are higher than global norms. that will make it world trade and then the standstill clause dated january 1998 will apply so all subsequent regulation will have to be rolled back to (I think) January 1998. Basically if its a change that is adverse to their profitability which is not "liberalisation" they can make changes that make them more profitable, just not less.

Have you ever heard of "Standstill" "Rollback" etc?



Bodych

(133 posts)
24. I hope you realize...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

...that I was being ruthlessly sarcastic.

I can't tell by your response.

I know exactly who the Clintons are and what they represent. They are what I'm sick and tired of being shoved in my life year after year after year.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
25. the Understanding on Financial Services includes a general standstill obligation. Its not flexible.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

Standstill is explicitly required for health insurance which we have made an explicit commitment to undertake in our sector-specific obligations.

The approach contained in the GATS Understanding on Financial Services includes a general standstill obligation.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
27. Something like this might help-
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

Recommendations to the European Commission on the negotiations for the Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA) 2015/2233(INI)

Motion for a resolution
Amendment
Ia. whereas the horizontal reservation for
a wide range of public services is not able
to adequately protect public services, since
in some Member States many services of
general economic interest, in particular
social services, health and education, are
in part privately funded;

AM1084708EN.doc
EN
PE576.507v01-00
United in diversity
EN27.1.2016
A8-0009/3
Amendment 3
Tiziana Beghin, David Borrelli, Rolandas Paksas
on behalf of the EFDD Group
Report
A8-0009/2016
Viviane Reding
Recommendations to the European Commission on the negotiations for the Trade in Services
Agreement (TiSA)
2015/2233(INI)
Motion for a resolution
Paragraph 1 – point (a) – point viii a (new)
Motion for a resolution

Amendment
viiia. to include a revision clause that
establishes a mechanism that provides a
party with the opportunity to leave the
agreement, or to suspend or reverse
commitments on liberalisation of a
service, particularly in the event of
infringements of labour and social
standards;


Motion for a resolution
Paragraph 1 – point (b) – point i
Motion for a resolution Amendment
i. to exclude public services and
audiovisual services from the scope of
application of the agreement, and to take a
cautious approach to cultural services
without prejudice to the EU’s
commitments in the GATS; to seek
ambitious commitments across parties,
sectors, and levels of government, in
particular the further opening of foreign
markets as regards public procurement,
telecommunications, transport and
financial and professional services;

i. to exclude public services, whether
publicly or privately funded, and
audiovisual services from the scope of
application of the agreement, and to take a
cautious approach to cultural services
without prejudice to the EU’s
commitments in the GATS; to seek
ambitious commitments across parties,
sectors, and levels of government, in
particular the further opening of foreign
markets as regards public procurement,
telecommunications, transport and
financial and professional services;



Motion for a resolution
Paragraph 1 – point (b) – point iv
Motion for a resolution Amendment
iv. to reject the application of standstill and
ratchet clauses to market access
commitments and to reject their application
to sensitive sectors, such as public and
cultural services, public procurement,
Mode 4, transport, and financial services;
to allow for enough flexibility to bring
services of general economic interest back
into public control; to maintain the right of
the EU and Member States to modify their
schedule of commitments in accordance
with the GATS;

iv. to reject the application of standstill and
ratchet clauses to all market access
commitments and national treatment
commitments and to reject their application
to sensitive sectors, such as public and
cultural services, public procurement,
Mode 4, transport, and financial services;
to allow for enough flexibility to bring
services of general economic interest back
into public control; to maintain the right of
the EU and Member States to modify their
schedule of commitments in accordance
with the GATS;


Motion for a resolution
Amendment
xia. to ensure that the agreement includes
simplified withdrawal procedures;

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
20. "We the people"
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

appear pretty damn stupid at this point in the election.

We're about to elect someone(Trump or HRC) who does not approve of healthcare for all.

It certainly looks stupid to me. And "We the people" did it. I'm so proud to be an American. (not so much lately)

I hope all the HRC fans are ecstatic about it. 1 every 16 minutes? WOW. That has to wear on one's mind. I wonder if HRC even knows this fact. We, the richest country in the world, can't do it. Un frickin believeable!!!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
26. It probably makes less difference who we elect at this point as the obligation was incurred in 1994
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

and 1998 and the Geneva and other negotiations to extend it are almost completed and likely will be passed and signed off on in the lame duck session.

Sorry, the rights to you have already been sold.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,734 posts)
28. I am the proud recipient ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

Of four to five heart attacks. At least two strokes. One induced by a for profit hospital.
A heart cath, while having heart fibrillation. Anyway that's water under the bridge.

For profit hospitals said that if they preformed a heart bypass, I would die. They didn't want to kill me so I was refused the operation. At the time we had no health insurance. So we thought I was stuck with the decision. Live out your life to the best of your ability. Sorry.

As a last resort we contacted the VA, I am a vet. I never took advantage of the health care they offered, stupid on my part but whatever.

The stroke incedent happened three months before we went to the VA.
Heart attacks happened way before. I really just walked through them.
Pain and so forth but I attributed the pain to a torn rotator cuff. Boy was I wrong!

Anyway, at the VA, I received a highly complex heart bypass. A lot of my veins were compromised by lack of care. The doctor took one out of my left arm and I got a five-way bypass.

The surgery was done by a doctor that is the head of the University of Michigan heart transplant team at the VA hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

There were numerous complications causing me a three week stay in the hospital.
I survived.

Three years later and by walking many, many miles, my dog and I hike in Proud Lake State Park at least three to five mile a day. I am out of the "Congestive Cardiac Failure" unit and just have to report to my primary care doctor.

This cost me nothing as opposed to the for profit care hospital al that put me into medical bankrupcy.

This is the health care we would all get if we had a universal health care system in this crumbling country.

This is what YOU could have if we had a universal health care system in this country.

This is a given. This is reality.

I could turn this into a post about the best candidate for POTUS, but I think the critical thinkers that belong to DU will see who I support.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
29. Thank God for you. Thank God for the VA.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

The people who betray the nation under the guise of incompetence or neoliberal trade ideology will pay for their crimes.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
35. We used to have stuff like Central Health districts
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

Where you could at least access free vaccines and a VD check.

I know ours doesn't vaccinate adults or do TB screens.

Stupid.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
37. You must be destitute first
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

To prevent crowd-out

Otherwise its stealing from the rightful owners of those markets.
It would not do for us to give our own people some kind of special deal.

We have to teach our trading partners by example.

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