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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:43 AM Apr 2016

The real meaning of Donald Trump -- Tom Englehardt/Le Monde Diplomatique

“Low-energy Jeb.” "Little Marco." “Lyin’ Ted.” "Crooked Hillary." Give Donald Trump credit. He has a memorable way with insults. His have a way of etching themselves on the brain. And they’ve garnered media coverage, analysis, and commentary almost beyond imagining. Memorable as they might be, however, they won’t be what last of Trump’s 2016 election run. That’s surely reserved for a single slogan that will sum up his candidacy when it’s all over (no matter how it ends). He arrived with it on that Trump Tower escalator in the first moments of his campaign and it now headlines his website, where it’s also emblazoned on an array of products from hats to t-shirts.

You already know which line I mean: “Make America Great Again!” With that exclamation point ensuring that you won’t miss the hyperbolic, Trumpian nature of its promise to return the country to its former glory days. In it lies the essence of his campaign, of what he’s promising his followers and Americans generally — and yet, strangely enough, of all his lines, it’s the one most taken for granted, the one that’s been given the least thought and analysis. And that’s a shame, because it represents something new in our American age. The problem, I suspect, is that what first catches the eye is the phrase “Make America Great” and then, of course, the exclamation point, while the single most important word in the slogan, historically speaking, is barely noted: “again.”

With that “again,” Donald Trump crossed a line in American politics that, until his escalator moment, represented a kind of psychological taboo for politicians of any stripe, of either party, including presidents and potential candidates for that position. He is the first American leader or potential leader of recent times not to feel the need or obligation to insist that the United States, the “sole” superpower of Planet Earth, is an “exceptional” nation, an “indispensable” country, or even in an unqualified sense a “great” one. His claim is the opposite. That, at present, America is anything but exceptional, indispensable, or great, though he alone could make it “great again.” In that claim lies a curiosity that, in a court of law, might be considered an admission of guilt. Yes, it says, if one man is allowed to enter the White House in January 2017, this could be a different country, but — and in this lies the originality of the slogan — it is not great now, and in that admission-that-hasn’t-been-seen-as-an-admission lies something new on the American landscape.

Donald Trump, in other words, is the first person to run openly and without apology on a platform of American decline. Think about that for a moment. “Make America Great Again!” is indeed an admission in the form of a boast. As he tells his audiences repeatedly, America, the formerly great, is today a punching bag for China, Mexico... well, you know the pitch. You don’t have to agree with him on the specifics. What’s interesting is the overall vision of a country lacking in its former greatness.

http://mondediplo.com/openpage/the-real-meaning-of-donald-trump

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The real meaning of Donald Trump -- Tom Englehardt/Le Monde Diplomatique (Original Post) bemildred Apr 2016 OP
Why Hillary Clinton Should Fear Donald Trump bemildred Apr 2016 #1
yep... dhill926 Apr 2016 #8
I don't think they have a clue. bemildred Apr 2016 #9
totally agree... dhill926 Apr 2016 #10
Trump is strong elljay Apr 2016 #13
CNN POLITICS: "Finally, Somebody is Listening" KoKo Apr 2016 #15
Trump loves the smell of victory in the morning bemildred Apr 2016 #2
Donald Trump on Hillary ‘Shouting’: ‘Eww…I Guess I’ll Have To Get Used To a Lot of That’ bemildred Apr 2016 #3
Trump: If Hillary Isn't Charged, I Would Have Investigation Reopened bemildred Apr 2016 #4
. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #5
Well, Trump has put it right out there on the table in full view... KoKo Apr 2016 #14
Trump has no incentive to back off. bemildred Apr 2016 #16
Donald Trump Says He’s Going to Use a Lot of Bernie Sanders’s Material Against Clinton bemildred Apr 2016 #6
Donald Trump Is Already Ripping The Conservative Movement Apart bemildred Apr 2016 #7
Tom's Article is a Great Read! KoKo Apr 2016 #11
Yes, Englehardt gets the context right, I think. bemildred Apr 2016 #12
he's running on isolationism, safety nets, domestic spending, and infrastructure MisterP Apr 2016 #17
Yep, large portions of the public are now tired of paying for the empire. bemildred Apr 2016 #18
Clinton's militantly for the status quo, Trump wants to burn down both the parties MisterP Apr 2016 #19
Yes, he is a wrecking ball, and you can't dirty a pig already in his element. bemildred Apr 2016 #25
The Improbable Reformers bemildred Apr 2016 #39
...! KoKo Apr 2016 #41
Nikita Kruschev's daughter, IIRC, I've run into her before. bemildred Apr 2016 #42
Yes.. KoKo Apr 2016 #43
Here Are the Many Ways Trump's Big Foreign Policy Speech Made No Damn Sense bemildred Apr 2016 #20
I only saw snips...but, he was supposedly reading from a Prepared Speech with Teleprompter... KoKo Apr 2016 #22
Well, he's trying to be serious, sort of. bemildred Apr 2016 #23
...! KoKo Apr 2016 #27
Goldberg's point of view would be interesting, but I don't think we will get it. bemildred Apr 2016 #28
One more: Senate Foreign Relations chair gushes over Trump speech bemildred Apr 2016 #36
Bob Corker: KoKo Apr 2016 #38
He's been around a long time, you don't get to be chair if you haven't. bemildred Apr 2016 #40
Trump moves to middle in his speech on 'America First' approach to foreign policy bemildred Apr 2016 #29
Hillary Clinton’s five-step plan to beat Trump’s personal attacks bemildred Apr 2016 #30
Trump Makes His Own Head Spin Talking Foreign Policy bemildred Apr 2016 #31
Richard Grenell: Trump's Foreign Policy Tough, Clear and a Challenge to Beltway Elites bemildred Apr 2016 #32
(Video) Laura Ingraham on the importance of Bobby Knight endorsing Trump bemildred Apr 2016 #33
Angry White Guy Endorses Angrier Orange Guy bemildred Apr 2016 #34
. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #35
Schieffer: Trump not just the candidate of "angry, frustrated, poorly educated" GOP bemildred Apr 2016 #21
NYT seemed to drop the usual individual maps of Last Night's Primary... KoKo Apr 2016 #24
It's probably not a good idea to try to make too much sense out of it. bemildred Apr 2016 #26
Why I Hosted Trump’s Foreign-Policy Speech -- By Jacob Heilbrunn bemildred Apr 2016 #37

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. Why Hillary Clinton Should Fear Donald Trump
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:44 AM
Apr 2016

With Hillary Clinton’s strong performance on Tuesday night, the Democratic primaries are effectively over. Barring an unforeseen catastrophe, Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. And it’s increasingly likely that her opponent will be Donald Trump, who won a clean sweep of five states on Tuesday and only seems to be getting stronger. Both parties must now gear themselves for a Clinton-Trump match-up in the fall.

Clinton indicated as much in her victory speech last night. As in earlier speeches, she made a play of Trump’s name and his penchant for racism, declaring, “Love trumps hate.” This slogan is an early clue as to how Clinton will frame the election, presenting herself as an inclusive advocate of national unity and Trump as an avatar of prejudice and divisiveness. Yet such an election poses unique problems that go beyond normal politics, and Clinton’s team may not yet appreciate how difficult this fight will be.

If winning the presidential election were all that mattered, Trump would be Clinton’s dream opponent. The Democratic front-runner struggles with poor approval ratings—55.6 percent unfavorable, according to Huffington Post’s aggregation of the polls—which means she needs to compete against someone who is even less popular than her. Trump fits that bill handsomely, standing at 63.6 percent unfavorability. Furthermore, Trump’s racism and misogyny are likely to motivate the very voters that Clinton most needs to attract: people of color, single women, and young people. And not surprisingly, in head-to-head polls, Clinton enjoys a hefty lead over Trump, even as she trails behind the less-polarizing John Kasich and enjoys a significantly smaller lead (of roughly 5 percentage points) over Ted Cruz.

Yet there are reasons why the real estate mogul should be a far greater cause for fear than Cruz or Kasich. Cruz might be a political extremist, further to the right than any serious presidential candidate since at least Barry Goldwater. But the Texas senator is still bound by the rules of normal politics, still beholden to donors and constituencies that serve as a check on what he can say or do. Cruz would be a predictable opponent in that he’d follow a hyper-conservative script and make largely ideological arguments. Trump, in contrast, is not predictable in that manner and has no loyalty to traditional Republican causes. He could, as he has in the primaries, present himself as an opponent of the Iraq War and interventionism, a supporter of Planned Parenthood in non-abortion funding, an enemy of free trade pacts, and a defender of Social Security and Medicare.

https://newrepublic.com/article/133050/hillary-clinton-fear-donald-trump

dhill926

(16,343 posts)
8. yep...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

this is going to be a wild ride, and the Dems have got to be prepared for it. Trump will stop at absolutely nothing...

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. I don't think they have a clue.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

Cognitive disconnect about the "Trump phenomenon" all over the place, along with lots of confidence about their ability to beat him. I think he is a con man/showman of a better caliber than they are accustomed to being up against. They are used to being in control. He is not in control (yet) but he is plenty dangerous.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
13. Trump is strong
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

in the many areas where Clinton is weak. He will follow Bernie in accusing her of being fully-owned by the corporations, assail her failed foreign policy, and condemn the international trade pacts she promoted. She, in turn, will not have an effective response. When she claims she has more government experience, Trump can merely say, "Yeah, but all of your decisions were bad." Most voters of any party already agree with that. The pundits are predicting a massive Trump defeat. I am not as confident when we are putting up a candidate who is adored by maybe 20% of voters, disliked by more than half, with the rest not sure whether it is best to vote for a crazy Republican or a conservative Democrat. Not a pretty picture.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. CNN POLITICS: "Finally, Somebody is Listening"
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders might be poles apart in their politics and temperament, but they are voicing visceral feelings of economic disenfranchisement and alienation among pessimistic voters who feel they've been ignored for years.

The billionaire and the democratic socialist are in different ways speaking for vast populations of Americans who feel threatened by globalization, who question the benefits of "free trade" that political leaders have peddled for decades and who believe distant elites control the economy in ways detrimental to their lives and prospects.

It is turning out to be a potent electoral brew -- which has lifted insurgent candidates like Trump and Sanders throughout the 2016 cycle and challenged foes like Hillary Clinton and establishment Republicans who have found it tougher to reconcile the grass-roots anger.
The cocktail of economic anxiety was clearly evident in the backstory of Trump's triumphs in Michigan and Mississippi and Sanders' surprise win in the Democratic primary in Michigan on Tuesday night.

"Michigan has been stripped. You look at those empty factories all over the place, and nobody hits that message better than me," Trump told CNN's Anderson Cooper on Wednesday.

The two men are not just playing on pre-occupations of those who see themselves as victims of the globalization and technological change that have scythed through the blue-collar economy. Seven years after the Great Recession erupted, wage growth is stagnant and under employment is rife. Structural economic issues that dogged the middle class even before 2008 have also been left to fester.

It doesn't matter that gas prices are at rock bottom, the unemployment rate is at its lowest point for eight years and Wall Street, despite a rocky several months, is up 40% over five years. College costs more, basic living standards are more expensive and good-paying jobs seem more precarious than ever. Many people are still asking: "When will the recovery reach me?" When opponents point out that neither vision comes with a set of ready-made solutions or even coherent policies, they almost miss the point.

That's because Trump and Sanders are appealing to gut-level emotions that amplify political movements, not the wonky details of trade or economic policy.

More of interesting read at......
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/09/politics/sanders-trump-economy-trade/index.html

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Trump loves the smell of victory in the morning
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

Donald Trump was fired up and ready to go on Wednesday morning.

Only hours after he swept five mid-Atlantic and New England states, Trump hit the airwaves, pounding home the message that it’s time for his rivals to drop out, while weighing in discursively on everything from his sleeping habits to Hillary Clinton’s “shouting.”

From CNN to MSNBC to ABC to Fox News, the famously sleep-deprived Manhattan real-estate mogul flexed his media muscle in triumph.

Shortly after 6 a.m., a drowsy-sounding Trump called into CNN's "New Day," where he at once celebrated his victories, ripped into "lyin' Ted" Cruz and John Kasich, turned his attention toward Clinton and reassured the world that he would keep being himself.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-victory-lap-acela-primary-222522

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Donald Trump on Hillary ‘Shouting’: ‘Eww…I Guess I’ll Have To Get Used To a Lot of That’
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump celebrated his crushing victory over the abortive Rebel Alliance of John Kasich and Ted Cruz in Tuesday night’s primaries by taking a victory lap on MSNBC’s Morning Joe Wednesday morning, and quickly brought his general election strategy into unsubtle relief. Asked to react to Hillary Clinton’s riff on women’s issues during her victory speech, Trump immediately went into a rant about Hillary “shouting,” reacted with an “ewww,” but when Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski pressed him on the issues that Hillary raised, Trump responded with nothing at all:

Brzezinski: It seems that would be the one area — perhaps — you say you have plans for Hillary. I would think she’s incredibly strong on these issues.

Trump: I haven’t quite recovered, it’s early in the morning, from her shouting that message. I know a lot of people would say you can’t say that about a woman, because of course a woman doesn’t shout. The way she shouted that message was not, eww, that’s the way she said it, and I guess I’ll have to get used to a lot of that over the next four or five months.

Brzezinski: What about issue pertaining to women she discussed including equal pay and right to choose.

Trump: We’re going to do very well. We’re going to do very well with Hillary and women as soon as we start our process against her. We’re going to do very well.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-trump-on-hillary-shouting-eww-i-guess-ill-have-to-get-used-to-a-lot-of-that/

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Trump: If Hillary Isn't Charged, I Would Have Investigation Reopened
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

Donald Trump went after Hillary Clinton again this morning, saying that if she is not charged over her private email server, he would seek to reopen the investigation.

Trump responded to a Fox and Friends viewer's question on the subject. The man wanted to know whether Trump, as president, would instruct his attorney general to look into the emails, the Clinton Foundation and Benghazi in the event that the former secretary of state does not face charges stemming from the current FBI investigation.

Trump's response?

"Yes."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/27/trump-if-hillary-isnt-charged-i-would-have-attorney-general-reopen-investigation

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. Well, Trump has put it right out there on the table in full view...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

and it will be interesting to see how it goes.

Bernie is nicely positioned if something occurs with the investigation. In spite of all the moaning about his "great losses" he has done respectably well enough to be a very viable candidate for November. The talk about bringing Biden in, is just more foolishness from MSM.



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. Trump has no incentive to back off.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

It will be epic, if it stays the way it looks now.

I think Bernie is kind of in the position of staying busy and seeing how it goes. As those of us who remember 1968 know, things can get really messy.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Donald Trump Says He’s Going to Use a Lot of Bernie Sanders’s Material Against Clinton
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

After five massive wins along the Acela corridor Tuesday night, Donald Trump has set his sights on November. And to prepare himself for his title match with Hillary Clinton, the Donald plans to read up on this democratic socialist all the kids are talking about.

"Bernie Sanders has a message that's interesting. I'm going to be taking a lot of the things Bernie said and using them," a very drowsy Trump told the Morning Joe crew. "I can reread some of his speeches and get some very good material."

Earlier this month, Sanders argued that Clinton's bad judgment called into question her qualifications for the presidency. Trump expressed admiration for that line of attack.

"He said some things about her that are actually surprising. That essentially she has no right to even be running. She's got bad judgment," the GOP front-runner continued. "When he said bad judgment, I said 'sound bite!' But Bernie has been treated very badly by the Democrats and Democratic Party. Frankly, he should run as an independent, I think."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/trump-bernie-gave-me-a-lot-of-good-sound-bites.html

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
7. Donald Trump Is Already Ripping The Conservative Movement Apart
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

Donald Trump’s candidacy is already tearing the conservative movement apart. The Guardian recently reported that Friends of Abe, a secretive group of Hollywood conservatives, would disband—and speculation is that “infighting over Donald Trump’s candidacy” was a contributing factor. Meanwhile, Eagle Forum, the pro-family group founded by Phyllis Schlafly in 1972 is being ripped apart, with Schlafly (and, presumably, her successor Ed Martin) backing Trump, while other prominent and longtime board members backing Cruz.

The Eagle Forum schism is perhaps the most interesting, inasmuch as a suit over the future of the group is currently being litigated. Depending on whom you ask, this is either the story of “Pro-Cruz Plotters Against Phyllis Schlafly” dragging the grande dame of the conservative movement into court—or the story of an ambitious male Trump supporter named Ed Martin, who has hijacked a conservative women’s group, and is manipulating its elderly founder (who should clearly have retired decades ago). I suspect the latter narrative is the closest to the truth, but who knows?

There are twists: Even the Schlafly family is divided over this. Schlafly’s son (who, to add another plot twist, is openly gay) is on Team Martin, while Schlafly’s daughter is supporting the board members who are trying to wrest control from Martin.

Some are wrongly portraying this as a suit against Phyllis Schlafly (she may well side with Ed Martin, but it is Martin and Schlafly’s son who are named as the defendants). Interestingly, the board members actually argue that Martin has already been removed from his post, via a majority vote of the board, but is refusing to relinquish control.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/27/donald-trump-is-already-ripping-the-conservative-movement-apart/

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. Tom's Article is a Great Read!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

I had it all ready to post, came here, and saw you had beat me to it!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Yes, Englehardt gets the context right, I think.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

I have felt this was going to be a "watershed" election for some time, but it's starting the jell now, very old school really, but not seen for 50 years, since the sixties. I could point to various things, the breaking of the media monopoly on information and most importantly disinformation, Citizen's United, our repeated foreign policy and economic failures; but the bottom line is a large portion of the US voting public is rejecting the prospects being offered to them by the established parties, and an accomplished media-savvy demogague is taking control of one of them. It won't be business as usual.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
17. he's running on isolationism, safety nets, domestic spending, and infrastructure
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:58 PM
Apr 2016

36 years of "things have never been better, and are going to BE better" and blissed-out personality-cult politics by both parties have accompanied an economic contraction unprecedented in history, masked only by the rise of a McMansion class

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
18. Yep, large portions of the public are now tired of paying for the empire.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

The city on the hill has proven to be full of WalMarts and WalMart jobs too.

Which is not unlike what brought the USSR down. The fundamental premise of the post-Vietnam empire was that it would be good for US, successful, no draft, no sacrifices, not unlike what Trump promises now, but he has more credibility than they do in DC, that is what they don't get, they did not deliver, have not delivered. They're going to be fired, and Trump is just the guy for that, as we all know from TV.

Took longer than I thought too, but Obama has done a very good job of trying to patch things up. He is our Gorbachev, the guy that attempted orderly reform, Trump will be our Yeltsin, the guy who just has another drink and says fuck it.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
19. Clinton's militantly for the status quo, Trump wants to burn down both the parties
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton's campaign will roll out Podesta and Lena Dunham to mock the nasty ol' white blue-collars killing themselves after being jobless for a decade; Trump will give them batons and a list of addresses

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
25. Yes, he is a wrecking ball, and you can't dirty a pig already in his element.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

The Lee Atwater/Karl Rove style of contrived attacks will not work on him, he makes no pretense to be otherwise. They only work on sanctimonious Democrats and Republican sexual predators, people who feel guilty.

We've been there a while now with the attempts to dismiss and degrade him, and it's not working, and he just keeps getting stronger. And he is starting to talk policy, he's not just whoring for attention any more.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
39. The Improbable Reformers
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

---

Mikhail Gorbachev – another revolutionary of humanity and decency – had a similar aspiration in the 1980s. Interestingly, he took inspiration from John Paul II’s argument that people are not free unless they determine their system of government and help create their own laws, and tried to advance democratization within the rigid Soviet system.

By bringing a message of justice to communism’s victims, Gorbachev firmly believed that he could reinvigorate the Soviet Union’s dying ideology. And, for a moment, he did. When the Gorbachev-led 19th National Communist Party Congress was broadcast on television in 1988, the country breathlessly watched its young leader publicly debate his reform ideas, most notably with Andrei Sakharov, a famed nuclear physicist and dissident human-rights activist.

Ultimately, of course, the Soviet Union’s ossified structure could not be saved; but, thanks in large part to Gorbachev’s fundamental decency, the USSR’s demise in 1991 was rather peaceful. He created an environment in which demands for radical change led to compromise, not rage – in sharp contrast to, say, the violent breakup of Yugoslavia.

Like Francis and Sanders, Gorbachev was an improbable reformer. Despite rising to power with the support of the KGB, he did not surrender his thought processes to that machine, in the way that President Vladimir Putin clearly has. Likewise, far from fitting the mold of the Democratic machine, Sanders is working to pull the party back “to the social democratic left where it belongs.” And many in the Vatican today cannot fathom Francis’s approach, viewing his messages of mercy as a “watering down” of the Catholic doctrine.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/pope-francis-bernie-sanders-progressive-by-nina-l--khrushcheva-2016-04

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
42. Nikita Kruschev's daughter, IIRC, I've run into her before.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

And yes, a good read, and interesting point of view.

But I wanted to show that my view of Gorbachev is not crazy too.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
43. Yes..
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

I saw an interesting interview with her a couple of years ago on RT, so it was good to read her perspective on "The Reformers."

I still have hope for Bernie, "The Reformer," that Hillary will not succeed against him with her Money Machine and Power Organization. If Trump implodes, due to circumstances we can't now foresee, and Hillary's investigation by FBI doesn't go well for her, then it would be Bernie vs. Cruz.

This snip from the article:

The opponents of Sanders and Francis may not be old, but they represent the old, while the improbable reformers, though elderly, are speaking for the young. In August 1991, an attempted coup against Gorbachev failed because he had the support of young people, both on the streets of Moscow and other cities and in the tanks and junior officer corps of the Soviet Union. That is the power of young people – a power that Sanders has tapped. Should Hillary Clinton beat him for the Democratic nomination, as seems likely, she will ignore it at her peril.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Here Are the Many Ways Trump's Big Foreign Policy Speech Made No Damn Sense
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

---

So, instead of trying to pick through the mess, here's a list, in no way comprehensive, of the many times Trump contradicted himself while laying out his alleged foreign policy:

We have to be both stable and completely unpredictable: Trump repeatedly said the United States had "no coherent foreign policy" and needed to again become a stable and dependable ally. How to do that? "We must, as a nation, be more unpredictable."

China is destroying the United States economically, but we have huge economic leverage over China: Trump loves to attack China, and he once again complained about the United States' large (but shrinking) trade deficit with China that's "letting them take advantage of us economically." But he also claimed that the Obama administration has huge, unspecified financial leverage over China, which isn't being used to make China take a tougher line against North Korea.

We'll be an incredible ally again. Also, our allies are freeloaders: Trump once again criticized other countries for not spending enough on their own defense. "Our allies are not paying their fair share," he complained, promising to somehow make them boost their defense budgets. He then pledged that America would again be a powerful and respected ally to the same countries he had insulted.

We can't waste money, but we have to spend a lot more on weapons: "Not one dollar can be wasted," Trump said of the federal budget, blaming much of America's supposed decline on government overspending and debt. He also called for the United States to pump cash into building new weapons to rebuild the American military, demanding hugely expensive and wasteful systems such as new fighter aircraft and warships.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/trumps-foreign-policy-speech

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
22. I only saw snips...but, he was supposedly reading from a Prepared Speech with Teleprompter...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

And, he was so stiff and Unlike "The Donald"...I thought he'd been "Captured"...if you get my drift.

IOWD's.... He seemed so "Ordinary," reading from the Teleprompter, that he lost what made "Trump/Trump."

It's the fault his new Campaign Manager who has some kind of shady background was what the report I saw, said. He's torn between his original Campaign Guy who had the incident with the reporter and the new one with foreign ties to the shady stuff.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
23. Well, he's trying to be serious, sort of.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

I think those who say we are turning to the general election now are right, because of Trump, Trump is for sure. And if you read what he says, it's pretty clear who his target audience is too.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
27. ...!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

I did see a discussion afterwards with General Barry McCaffery on MSNBC (the General who was Paid by CNN aways back) who has his own personal business interests that he didn't disclose when he was promoted as CNN's "Military Consultant." I assume MSNBC paid him more so he switched over.

He seemed to be very pleased, in general, with what Trump said, acknowledging that he thought it was a prepared speech with only a little of the Real Donald thrown in. Jeffrey Goldberg was also on the panel. I assumed his speech was to reassure the MIC Community that "The Donald" wouldn't be heavy on the Big Button or Red Phone or whatever they use now to start the nukes. They mentioned he was favorable to partnership with Putin.

I'll have to force myself watch the "YT" of the whole thing to see everything he mentioned in his speech.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
28. Goldberg's point of view would be interesting, but I don't think we will get it.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not getting into McCaffery, I'd say unpleasant things.

But yeah, not everybody is upset by Trumps rise, I'll post a few to follow:

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
36. One more: Senate Foreign Relations chair gushes over Trump speech
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker praised Donald Trump’s foreign policy speech on Wednesday night, calling it a “great step in the right direction.”

Speaking to MSNBC host Chris Matthews on his program “Hardball,” the Tennessee Republican said that Trump’s remarks, delivered at Washington's Mayflower Hotel earlier in the day, were “full of substance" and he was “very pleased” with what he heard.

“If you look at the broadness, the vision, I thought it was a major step forward,” Corker said.

Corker also released a written statement urging the billionaire front-runner to be more specific in outlining his new "coherent" vision for America if elected president.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bob-corker-donald-trump-foreign-policy-speech-222558

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
38. Bob Corker:
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:28 AM
Apr 2016

During the Financial Crisis of 2008 he was Bloomberg/CNBC Financial Business news "Go to Guy" and he still pops up on Foreign Relations. He and Trump do have Real Estate Investment interests (with Corker, shady) in common and this is interesting about saving taxpayer dollars and the Iran Deal.

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Lawmaker Blocks Deal to Sell F-16s to Pakistan
By
Gordon Lubold
Feb 10, 2016 5:48 pm ET
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WASHINGTON — A senior Republican senator is blocking the Obama administration’s subsidized sale of as many as eight new F-16 jet fighters to Pakistan because of Islamabad’s relationship with a militant group known for targeting U.S.-trained security forces in neighboring Afghanistan.

Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told Secretary of State John Kerry in a letter that he couldn’t allow the Obama administration to use taxpayer funds to support the sale of the jets.

He cited attacks by the group known as the Haqqani network, saying the government in Islamabad continues to provide haven to its leaders.

Mr. Corker, who recently returned from his fifth trip to Afghanistan, said the Pakistani government should be welcome to purchase the F-16s with its own money. The planned sale through the State Department’s foreign military sales program, announced last year, aims to reward Pakistan for its efforts against militants.

“I do not want U.S. taxpayer dollars going to support these acquisitions,” Mr. Corker said in an interview. “While we’re spending tremendous amounts of U.S. dollars and certainly tremendous sacrifice in our men and women in uniform and by other agencies, they are working simultaneously to destabilize Afghanistan.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/02/10/senator-wants-to-block-sale-of-f-16-fighters-to-pakistan/

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Republican Senator Bob Corker Is A Traitor

#AprilFoolsDeal
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker of Tennessee
Tennessee Republican Senator Bob Corker is a traitor

George Rasley, CHQ Editor | 4/15/2015

Traitor is strong language, but in the aftermath of Tuesday’s vote on a bill that was supposed to reaffirm the Senate’s constitutional power to consent to President Obama’s as yet still undefined and undisclosed nuclear treaty with Iran there is no other way to describe the actions of Senator Bob Corker, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

The bill Corker rammed through the Foreign Relations Committee is worse than no bill at all.

What Corker’s bill does is, in its post-markup form, require the president to submit for congressional review the final nuclear agreement reached between Iran, the U.S. and its five negotiating partners. The bill does maintain the prohibition on the president waiving congressionally enacted sanctions against Iran during the review period.

However, the review period in the measure has been shortened from 60 days to an initial 30 days. If, at the end of the 30 days, Congress were to pass a bill on sanctions relief and send it to the president, an additional 12 days would be automatically added to the review period. This could be another 10 days of review if the president vetoed the resulting sanctions bill.

http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20107

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Sen. Corker’s Real Estate Investments in Question
Ties to REIT Under Scrutiny

December 2, 2015
Brena Swanson
Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) is in the spotlight for alleged insider trading after the Wall Street Journal started asking questions about his ties to a REIT and Yahoo published an article detailing his ties to other real estate companies. Per Yahoo:

Bethany McLean, a contributing editor at Vanity Fair and bestselling author, wrote the Yahoo article that attempts to unravel the complex story behind Corker's involvement with a company called CBL & Associates Properties (CBL), which is one of the country’s largest shopping mall REITs.

According to the article, Corker, his wife and daughters made approximately 70 "opportune and very profitable trades" in the stock of a company called CBL & Associates Properties.

The article noted that the senator told Yahoo Finance several years ago that he had a Bloomberg terminal.


http://www.housingwire.com/articles/35746-sen-corkers-real-estate-investments-in-question

bemildred

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40. He's been around a long time, you don't get to be chair if you haven't.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Apr 2016

And the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee is a plum job.

bemildred

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29. Trump moves to middle in his speech on 'America First' approach to foreign policy
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:38 PM
Apr 2016

Delivering what his campaign billed as a major foreign policy address, Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump staked out unusual territory for him Wednesday — somewhere close to middle ground.

His speech to a group of foreign policy mandarins was notable for its contradictions, lack of specifics and occasional belligerence. But he did not repeat several radical ideas he has espoused on the stump — such as promoting the spread of nuclear weapons — that would upend decades of U.S. policy.

Speaking a day after he swept five states and moved within striking range of the GOP nomination, Trump clearly sought to reassure those nervous about his understanding of America's military and diplomatic obligations and commitments around the globe.

He hewed broadly to the lines of orthodox Republican doctrine on national security and foreign policy, positing that the United States should assert its interests in global economic and diplomatic endeavors.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-fg-trump-foreign-policy-20160427-story.html

bemildred

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30. Hillary Clinton’s five-step plan to beat Trump’s personal attacks
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:39 PM
Apr 2016

If this is the way Donald Trump wants to play, Hillary Clinton’s campaign says bring it on.

With the party nominations now mostly locked in, Trump decided to aim his first salvo of the general election campaign squarely at Clinton’s gender. How Clinton’s campaign dealt with attack is a microcosm of how they plan to deal with, and ultimately defeat, Trump in November.

“If Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5 percent of the vote,” Trump said at a press conference Tuesday before all the results had even come in from the day’s primary elections. “The only thing she’s got going is the woman’s card, and the beautiful thing is, women don’t like her.”

He followed it up Wednesday during an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” by saying he still hasn’t “quite recovered” from her “shouting” the night before: “I know a lot of people would say you can’t say that about a woman, because of course a woman doesn’t shout.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-five-step-plan-beat-trumps-personal-attacks

bemildred

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31. Trump Makes His Own Head Spin Talking Foreign Policy
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

So that is what a “presidential” Donald Trump looks like.

The Republican frontrunner delivered the most scripted, and stilted, speech of his 10-month presidential campaign on Wednesday. He used a teleprompter. He spoke softly and deliberately. And at different points in the nearly 40-minute address, he pledged as president to develop a foreign policy that would both be “unpredictable” and “consistent.”

A day after declaring himself the GOP’s presumptive nominee, Trump wanted to show the club of political insiders who have long snubbed him that, yes, he could give a sober, considered address on his vision for the world. Yet by design or not, the awkwardness of Trump’s presentation made clear that this was not the freewheeling anti-politician who has won the votes of more than 10 million Republicans over the last four months. There was no rapturous crowd of thousands to hear him at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, just a couple hundred people who responded to a few of his punchier declarations with meek applause. And while the address neatly summarized the various foreign-policy positions Trump has taken in interviews and at campaign rallies, it did not eliminate their inherent contradictions.

Those began right at the top.

http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2016/04/trump-makes-his-own-head-spin-talking-foreign-policy/127858/

bemildred

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32. Richard Grenell: Trump's Foreign Policy Tough, Clear and a Challenge to Beltway Elites
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump delivered a 40-minute detailed foreign policy speech today highlighting his views on trade, terrorism, economic freedom, Iran and China. Trump used a teleprompter to articulate a clear vision in which he said he would implement a foreign policy "that replaces randomness with purpose" and where "the American people are first."

"We went from mistakes in Iraq to Egypt to Libya, to President Barack Obama’s line in the sand in Syria. Each of these actions have helped to throw the region into chaos, and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper," said Trump.

Trump made five key points, the first of which was that "U.S. resources are depleted." Trump blamed deficits, debt, low growth and open borders, saying America must "regain our financial independence and strength." Trump went on to chastise our allies for not paying enough for their own safety, claiming only four other countries in NATO pay the required 2% of GDP on defense spending. "Our allies must contribute toward the financial, political and human costs of our tremendous security burden or "the U.S. must be prepared to let these countries defend themselves."

But Trump’s third point showed just how difficult the first two points will be to implement. While Trump says he is willing to walk away from allies unwilling or unable to pay their fair share, he says "At the same time, your friends need to know that you will stick by the agreements that you have with them."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/richard-grenell-trump-foreign-policy-clear/2016/04/27/id/726148/

bemildred

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33. (Video) Laura Ingraham on the importance of Bobby Knight endorsing Trump
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

Apr. 27, 2016 - 6:22 - LifeZette Editor-in-Chief Laura Ingraham on Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and Bobby Knight’s endorsement of the GOP frontrunner.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4866593060001/laura-ingraham-on-the-importance-of-bobby-knight-endorsing-trump/?#sp=show-clips

bemildred

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34. Angry White Guy Endorses Angrier Orange Guy
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

At a campaign rally in Indianapolis on Wednesday, famously furious basketball coach Bobby Knight endorsed famously furiouser basketball Donald Trump, saying he will be one of the “best presidents in U.S. history.”

Bobby Knight endorses @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/P85y0vEZah
— POLITICO (@politico) April 27, 2016

“There has never been a more honest politician than Donald Trump,” Knight told the crowd. “You folks are taking a look at the most prepared man in history to step in as president of the United States.”

In 2013, Knight called “hope” the worst word in the English language. With Knight’s endorsement, Trump surely has the “despair” vote on lock. Go Hoosiers!

http://gawker.com/angry-white-guy-endorses-angrier-orange-guy-1773512733

bemildred

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21. Schieffer: Trump not just the candidate of "angry, frustrated, poorly educated" GOP
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

Exit polls from Tuesday night show Donald Trump's popularity appears to be increasing among Republicans.

You can forget that part about Trump being just the candidate of the angry, frustrated, poorly educated rural Republicans who are fed up with the Republican establishment.

He won everywhere among every group in last night's five-state sweep, including places where the establishment he opposed is strongest.

He won affluent Montgomery County in the Washington suburbs where many in the Republican establishment live. He won even bigger in Fairfield County, Connecticut, home of many who work on Wall Street.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/campaign-2016-schieffer-trump-not-just-the-candidate-of-angry-frustrated-poorly-educated-gop/

KoKo

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24. NYT seemed to drop the usual individual maps of Last Night's Primary...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

where they showed all the states that voted and you could go to the counties to see the totals, precints, etc.

What they have up now might be interesting. It was interesting to see all the wealthy areas of CT (NY Financial Hedge Fund/Wall St. Crowd) along with the NYC Media Celebrities who also have high priced homes there, going for both Trump and Hillary.

And then there is Maryland with it's closeness to DC where many of the DC Political Operative, Lobbyists, Lawyers, Pollsters, etc. live along with High Powered Military Retirees who have estates on the Maryland shore (Rumsfeld/Cheney live nearby on the shore)... was fully for Trump/Hillary. Then add in Baltimore where the BLM and others who are near Poverty level and that they ALL went for Hillary is quite amazing. The Rich and the Very Poor all have Hillary in common?

So Hillary won both the 1% in the larger cities in CT, Baltimore & DC Suburbs and Shore in Maryland, plus the major cities in Pennsylvania with the rich and the Poorist. The Green on the Map was Bernie which was mostly in rural areas with a few splits in the poorest sections in some county areas of the cities and few other outliers in the rural areas!

Given that Independents couldn't vote in any of these close primaries and the registrations may have been too early to "Feel the Bern" ...I'd say Bernie still managed to do much better than anyone should have expected.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/national-results-map

bemildred

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26. It's probably not a good idea to try to make too much sense out of it.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

I think the essential divide is between those who know they have been screwed and those who still think they are doing all right.

And for some which sorts of fearmongering they find most convincing.

And there are those who favor or oppose things on principle, but most of them will change their minds if they get screwed or rewarded enough.

And I think we are still just ramping it up. Six months, big primaries, both conventions, and the general, yet to go.

bemildred

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37. Why I Hosted Trump’s Foreign-Policy Speech -- By Jacob Heilbrunn
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:47 PM
Apr 2016

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Would a new Trump be revealed?

In fact there was no new Trump. His speech did not deviate from the themes he has already enunciated and it showed that he is willing to go very far indeed. Nothing like this has been heard from a Republican foreign policy candidate in decades. Trump doesn’t want to modify the party’s foreign policy stands. He’s out to destroy them. In his speech, Trump declared that U.S. foreign policy since the Cold War has been “incoherent” under both Democratic and Republican administrations. He said it’s been a “complete and total disaster. ... No vision. No purpose. No direction. No strategy.”

Trump made it plain in his speech that his implicit No. 1 credential for becoming commander in chief is that “although not in government service, I was totally against the war in Iraq, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East.” This represents an assault against Hillary Clinton as well as the neoconservative establishment in the GOP.

This is why perhaps his most significant statement was: “I will also look for talented experts with new approaches, and practical ideas, rather than surrounding myself with those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war.” What Trump is talking about is dispensing with an entire wing of the GOP that has controlled the commanding heights of foreign policy over recent decades.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/trump-foreign-policy-speech-why-i-hosted-it-213858

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