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struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:29 AM Feb 2016

Response at University of Houston is exactly why we feared campus carry in Texas

Sharon Grigsby
Published: February 23, 2016 3:39 pm

... faculty, students and advisory groups at public universities in Texas are trying to figure out how to live safely with the new campus carry law, which goes into effect with the fall semester. While a number of private colleges are remaining “no guns allowed,” the state’s public universities have few choices in the matter ...

... it’s difficult to imagine how unnerving working as a (usually underpaid) college professor is about to become. And how students’ educations might suffer as faculty weigh what they really want to teach against who might be offended to the point of pulling a weapon.

Once again, what was once the stuff of the Onion is now Texas Reality, 2016. Advocates of campus carry will maintain that the law shouldn’t make any difference in curriculum — or create concerns — but judging by the many discussions going on at campuses statewide, those concerns are widespread.


http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2016/02/university-of-houston-response-is-exactly-why-we-feared-campus-carry-in-texas.html/

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Response at University of Houston is exactly why we feared campus carry in Texas (Original Post) struggle4progress Feb 2016 OP
GUN HUMPERS HAVE WON Skittles Feb 2016 #1
Concealed Carry Weapon Laws and College Campuses struggle4progress Feb 2016 #2
they're winning Skittles Feb 2016 #3
DON'T PANIC! SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #4
I have DU's version of Ted on IGNORE Skittles Feb 2016 #5
Which one? Or all of them? SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #6
there's one, that's all he does is pimp NRA talking points Skittles Feb 2016 #7
Is it a ploy to destroy public universities along with public school? DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2016 #8
So we feared campus carry in Texas because professors would be afraid of what might happen. Igel Feb 2016 #9

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
2. Concealed Carry Weapon Laws and College Campuses
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:36 AM
Feb 2016

10/5/2015

... Currently .. 19 states .. ban carrying a concealed weapon on a college campus: California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Wyoming.

In 23 states the decision to ban or allow concealed carry weapons on campuses is made by each college or university individually: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia.

... eight states now have provisions allowing the carrying of concealed weapons on public postsecondary campuses. These states are Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin. During the 2015 legislative session, Texas' legislature passed a bill permitting concealed weapons on campus and making it the eighth state to permit guns on campus. The legislation will take effect in August 2016.

Utah remains the only state to have statute specifically naming public colleges and universities as public entities that do not have the authority to ban concealed carry, and thus, all 10 public institutions in Utah allow concealed weapons on their property. Recently passed Kansas legislation creates a provision that colleges and universities cannot prohibit concealed carry unless a building has "adequate security measures." Governing boards of the institutions, however, may still request an exemption to prohibit for up to four years. Wisconsin legislation creates a provision that colleges and universities must allow concealed carry on campus grounds. Campuses can, however, prohibit weapons from campus buildings if signs are posted at every entrance explicitly stating that weapons are prohibited. All University of Wisconsin system campuses and technical community college districts are said to be putting this signage in place. Legislation passed in Mississippi in 2011 creates an exception to allow concealed carry on college campuses for those who have taken a voluntary course on safe handling and use of firearms by a certified instructor ...


http://www.ncsl.org/research/education/guns-on-campus-overview.aspx

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
7. there's one, that's all he does is pimp NRA talking points
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:48 AM
Feb 2016

actually, I have several of them on Ignore

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
8. Is it a ploy to destroy public universities along with public school?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

The new head of education in Texas is a home schooler who hates public schools. Republicans love to privatize and plunder.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
9. So we feared campus carry in Texas because professors would be afraid of what might happen.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

Many professors are already afraid of what might happen if they say the wrong thing, if something gets misinterpreted or misconstrued.

One was rather bold, when I was at a particular school, and every year like clockwork student groups marched into the lecture hall, yelled nasty things at him and shut down at least one lecture--complaining to the chancellor, to the media, and picketing his office and lab--for simply saying that population growth in California's Southland was unsustainable, and the #1 cause of population growth was immigration. Of course, these are both obviously true even if some groups still wish they weren't, except when those groups boast of their population growth.

The prof involved long since had tenure, his lab wasn't in danger of being defunded, and he decided to stand up to the immigrant advocacy groups' bullying because he wouldn't suffer.

Another researcher who didn't have tenure was basically told not to come back when his contract was over--and to go on a paid vacation before his contract was over--because he was looking at the geographic variation of smooth versus striated muscle tissue with an eye to mapping out genetic differences. This, of course, was racist because any genetic difference might be used for racist purposes because, well, there is no micro-evolution, humans are so past developing genetic differences between geographically disparate communities. (Again, people were terrorized by their worst fears of the possibility of what somebody might do). When he applied for jobs elsewhere, the social advocacy groups continued their crusade against him. I think he wound up in private practice as an MD. (Of course, the very kind of work he was doing was largely taken over by DNA sequencing, which is so opaque to poli-sci and social-services undergrads that they don't bother to protest.)

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