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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:13 AM Feb 2016

Scalia’s death and questions about who pays for Supreme Court justices to visit remote resorts

Justice Antonin Scalia’s sudden death over the weekend at a remote West Texas ranch spawned a host of questions about how authorities in the area responded.

It also raised questions about the nature of his travel, who paid for a Supreme Court justice to visit a remote resort and whether they are subject to the same disclosure guidelines as other judges or federal officials. Here is a guide to these questions.

Scalia was at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort tucked away in the Big Bend region of Texas about 30 miles from the border with Mexico.

The ranch is 30,000-acre getaway that is home to John B. Poindexter, according to the website of J.B. Poindexter & Co. It is a remote location that has reportedly attracted the likes of Mick Jagger, Jerry Hall and Bruce Willis. When Tommy Lee Jones directed a movie more than a decade ago, he filmed several scenes at the ranch, according to the Houston Chronicle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/17/justice-scalias-death-and-questions-about-who-pays-for-supreme-court-justices-to-visit-remote-resorts/
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Scalia’s death and questions about who pays for Supreme Court justices to visit remote resorts (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
I have been wondering for years what kind of under the table, side deals Scalia has been involved in -none Feb 2016 #1
Hey, they're just friends. Scalia just happened to be friends with a lot of very rich people. nt bemildred Feb 2016 #2
The name "John Poindexter" rang some bells KoKo Feb 2016 #4
Didn't it though? bemildred Feb 2016 #5
...! Definitely KoKo Feb 2016 #7
Who paid for Mick Jagger, Jerry Hall and Bruce Willis to stay there? JayhawkSD Feb 2016 #3
K&R! Article mentions past efforts to get more disclosures... KoKo Feb 2016 #6

-none

(1,884 posts)
1. I have been wondering for years what kind of under the table, side deals Scalia has been involved in
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

Every now and again he appeared in the company of some conflict of interest people and like this, questionable high bucks places.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. The name "John Poindexter" rang some bells
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:43 PM
Feb 2016

When I first read the WaPo article...I thought ...WHO? Having not followed the other John Poindexter's career since Iran Contra, a Wiki search shows he's been very busy in the private intelligence field since those days . It's amusing, but creepy, that the ranch owner who found his body has the same unusual name and has made some odd statements about his death leading Donald Trump to question Scalia's death circumstances. Something about a "pillow above the head." I'll bet I wasn't the only one checking WIKI for Poindexter.

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John Marlan Poindexter (born August 12, 1936) is a retired United States naval officer and Department of Defense official. He was Deputy National Security Advisor and National Security Advisor for the Reagan administration. He was convicted in April 1990 of multiple felonies as a result of his actions in the Iran–Contra affair, but his convictions were reversed on appeal in 1991. More recently, he served a brief stint as the director of the DARPA Information Awareness Office for the George W. Bush administration. He is the father of NASA astronaut and U.S. Navy Captain Alan G. Poindexter.]U.S. executive branch service
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Poindexter

Iran–Contra affair
Main article: Iran–Contra affair

The Iran-Contra affair resulted from the discovery of the United States' involvement in sending money and weapons to Iran for the release of American hostages from Lebanon, and sending aid to the Contras. This involvement was in violation of the Boland Amendment which prevented the United States from directly or indirectly being involved with the Contras.[6] Evidence revealed that Poindexter was a leader in the organization of the transfer of the weapons to Iran and oversaw other people involved in the affair, such as Oliver North.

Poindexter and North communicated through a channel known as the "Private Blank Check" which Poindexter set up on a National Security Council (NSC) computer. Through this system, Poindexter and North were able to send messages back and forth without being intercepted by other NSC staff members. This system was not successful. Even though both Poindexter and North attempted to delete the messages, the White House Communications Agency was able to recover some of them, later used in trying Poindexter and North. On November 25, 1986, after the public disclosure of the Iran-Contra affair, Poindexter was forced to resign from his position as National Security Advisor,[7]

Poindexter was convicted on April 7, 1990, of five counts of lying to Congress and obstructing the Congressional committees investigating the Iran-Contra Affair, which were investigating the Reagan Administration's covert arms sales to Iran and the diversion of proceeds to insurgents fighting the Marxist Government in Nicaragua. The convictions were reversed in 1991 on appeal[8] on the grounds that several witnesses against him had been influenced by his testimony before Congress, even though Congress had given him immunity for that testimony.[9]
Poindexter went on to serve in the Reagan administration as Military Assistant, from 1981 to 1983, as Deputy National Security Advisor from 1983 to 1985, and as National Security Advisor from 1985 to 1986.[3] From 1983 to 1985, Poindexter was responsible for leading and managing the National Security Council staff as chairman of the Crisis Pre-planning Group. As National Security Advisor, Vice Admiral Poindexter was responsible for providing recommendations to the President on national security, foreign policy and defense policy.

Major events in which he played a significant role for the executive branch included the Strategic Defense Initiative, Operation Urgent Fury, the Achille Lauro incident, Operation El Dorado Canyon (in response to Libyan terrorist attacks), and the Reykjavík Summit with the Soviets.

Policy Analysis Market[/b
Main article: Policy Analysis Market

Poindexter faced criticism from the media and some politicians about the Policy Analysis Market project, a theoretical prediction market that would have rewarded participants for accurately predicting geopolitical trends in the Middle East and elsewhere. This was portrayed in the media as allowing participants to profit from the assassination of heads of state and acts of terrorism due to such events being mentioned on illustrative sample screens showing the interface.[13] The controversy over the proposed futures market led to a Congressional audit of the IAO in general. Funding for the IAO was subsequently cut and Poindexter retired from DARPA on August 12, 2003.

More of his current activities at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Poindexter



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. Didn't it though?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

Can you imagine all those bigshots scattering like Kochroaches when the news of Scalia's demise got out?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. ...! Definitely
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

will be interesting to see what comes out with further investigation ...or not. It's a crazy enough year with dark undersides being revealed and political predictions turned upside down..who knows what else lurks.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
3. Who paid for Mick Jagger, Jerry Hall and Bruce Willis to stay there?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

I know that none of those three has brought any cases before the Supreme Court, but how many cases has J.B. Poindexter & Co brought before the Supreme Court? Or is the conflict of interest merely an assumption?

I did not like Scalia any better than you apparently did, but I will limit my criticism to principle and avoid innuendo.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. K&R! Article mentions past efforts to get more disclosures...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:56 PM
Feb 2016

Some here might remember the backlash over Clarence Thomas's wife. Hopefully more will come out about Scalia's activities and some changes will be made in holding these justices more accountable.

Roberts issued his report at the end of a year in which more than 100 law professors nationwide asked Congress to give the Supreme Court an ethical code of conduct after it emerged that Scalia and Justice Clarence Thomas had attended private political meetings sponsored by billionaire conservative donors David and Charles Koch. That same year, Kagan was called on to recuse herself from hearing challenges to health-care reform, and a watchdog group said Thomas had failed to report his wife’s income from a conservative think tank before he amended his financial forms.

While Roberts did not specifically mention those issues, he said it would not be wise for justices to review the recusal decisions made by their peers. He said that “it would create an undesirable situation” enabling justices to play a role in determining which others get to weigh in on cases.
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