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elleng

(130,908 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:58 PM Feb 2012

The Right-Wing Id Unzipped

Although Mitt Romney used the word "conservative" 19 times in a short speech at the February 10, 2012, Conservative Political Action Conference, the audience he used this word to appeal to was not conservative by any traditional definition. It was right wing. Despite the common American practice of using "conservative" and "right wing" interchangeably, right wing is not a synonym for conservative and not even a true variant of conservatism - although the right wing will opportunistically borrow conservative themes as required.

Right-wingers have occasioned much recent comment. Their behavior in the Republican debates has caused even jaded observers to react like an Oxford don stumbling upon a tribe of headhunting cannibals. In those debates where the moderators did not enforce decorum, these right-wingers, the Republican base, behaved with a single lack of dignity. For a group that displays its supposed pro-life credentials like a neon sign, the biggest applause lines resulted from their hearing about executions or the prospect of someone dying without health insurance.

Who are these people and what motivates them? To answer, one must leave the field of conventional political theory and enter the realm of psychopathology. . .

Right-wing alchemy transforms freedom into authoritarianism.

Robert Altemeyer, a Canadian psychologist, has done extensive testing to isolate and describe the traits of the authoritarian personality. His results are distilled in his book "The Authoritarians." He describes religious fundamentalists, the core of the right-wing Republican base, as follows:

They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide.

http://www.truth-out.org/right-wing-id-unzipped/1329147417

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The Right-Wing Id Unzipped (Original Post) elleng Feb 2012 OP
Gee, that is Holy Ricky and Cheater Newty to a T southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #1
The "unzipped" part certainly fits old Newt. lob1 Feb 2012 #2
It sure does. LOL southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #5
Altemeyer's book is an excellent analysis of the pathology BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #3
You may be right; I haven't checked. elleng Feb 2012 #4
Oh, there's another book I want to read BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #8
Ditto, Blanche, elleng Feb 2012 #9
:) BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #11
I've been pushing Altemeyer's ideas & free online book around here for years. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #6
oh interesting! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #7
Altemeyer acknowledges his roots in the Adorno work. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #12
Wow!! Thanks, Pine... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #13
I should think the abridged version would do just fine. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #14
K&R zeos3 Feb 2012 #10

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
3. Altemeyer's book is an excellent analysis of the pathology
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:06 PM
Feb 2012

IMO


I think he added a section on how to deal with them; a discussion on what can we do (I'm not certain about this...someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

It's available free as an ebook. Just google away.

IMO, a big step we could take (somehow--- :shrug would be to take the media spotlight off the fucking sick crap they spew in the culture wars...or better yet, rebut the garbage. Just stop letting their fact-free hate and control ideology stand unchallenged, as if it were equally valid with liberal views.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. I've been pushing Altemeyer's ideas & free online book around here for years.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:30 PM
Feb 2012

His work is an outgrowth of the old Adorno et al. work on authoritarianism done after WW2 that resulted in things like the California F Scale. Where the Adorno crowd delineated the characteristics of the followers, Altemeyer focused more on the psychological characteristics of the leaders. The leaders and the followers are not the same kind of people.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
7. oh interesting!
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:29 AM
Feb 2012

I'm not aware of the Adorno work....don't know what the California F Scale is.....

The followers' traits are what interest me the most, because they don't make ANY SENSE to me!

They really frustrate me--the power GRABBER is easier to understand, but the self-blinding that followers need to engage in, in order to maintain the delusion that their authoritarian demagogues are right just confounds me.

Where can I get hold of the Adorno material?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
12. Altemeyer acknowledges his roots in the Adorno work.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=adorno+authoritarian+personality&sprefix=adorno+authori%2Caps%2C712


And, apropos of nothing in particular, as long as we're talking psych books, are you up on Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow?

Get familiar with it. It's important.

I love you, Blanche. You're one of the bright ones around here. Thanks for tuning in.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. Wow!! Thanks, Pine...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:25 AM
Feb 2012

On a board full of brilliant brilliant minds, and coming from one whom I admire as one of them....I am humbled! (and grinning like a little kid, cuz....who doesn't like compliments? )



Thank you for the references!!! NOt familiar with the Kahneman....gonna go have a look now!

(I see an abridged edition of the Adorno book.....much more reasonable price...is that ok? Or is there too much good stuff missing from the abridgement?)

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