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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:31 PM Oct 2015

United States vs. Denmark, in 17 Charts By Matt Bruenig

GRAPH HEAVY AND SATISFYING

http://www.demos.org/blog/10/14/15/united-states-vs-denmark-17-charts




People claim we can't do this sort of thing here, but their arguments are fairly unpersuasive. There is good reason to think we won't do it here for political reasons and for reasons having to do with the fact that whites in the US generally don't want to improve the well-being of Blacks and Latinos, and this turns them off from high taxes and welfare. But if you put that political question aside, the policy side of things is not that complicated. IT'S THE RACISM, HILLARY!

The US is bigger than Denmark by a lot, but with its larger size also comes a larger national income. On a per-capita basis, the US actually has quite a bit more national income than Denmark (in 2005 $PPP). So we don't lack for the income necessary to fund a Denmark-like system.

The US has shown itself to have a good ability to administer tax systems. Unlike some large states where the central government has a difficult time exerting itself in the hinterlands, it appears the US government has been quite able to collect taxes from all over the country. It also has a lot of room available in its tax level (as indicated by the taxes section above).

Finally, the US has shown itself to have a good ability to administer welfare systems. As Michael Calderwood notes, the US Social Security Administration alone sends out 59.5 million checks per month, a number which is greater than the entire Nordic population combined (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden). If anything, the larger size of the US should make it easier to implement Nordic-like systems because economies of scale should reduce the per-capita administrative costs of running the welfare programs.

Conclusion

So, in total, Denmark is a low-poverty, low-inequality, high-income, high-tax, high-welfare, high-innovation, high-employment country that has generous time off for vacations and newborns and has a relatively high amount of leisure time for workers. The US could easily move in the Danish direction, and it would be a big improvement for poor and working people if it did so, but given the toxic politics of the country, I wouldn't expect it any time soon.

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United States vs. Denmark, in 17 Charts By Matt Bruenig (Original Post) Demeter Oct 2015 OP
Those are some pretty damning... 3catwoman3 Oct 2015 #1
yeah Demeter Oct 2015 #2
K&R abelenkpe Oct 2015 #3
I love how we act like we have the best standard of living on the planet Hydra Oct 2015 #4
damn, LA can't even get a whole LRT line because the Westside's terrified Lupe will MisterP Oct 2015 #5

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. I love how we act like we have the best standard of living on the planet
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:03 PM
Oct 2015

While we're almost equal with Mexico for inequality. We have some of those billionaires come here for Christmas vacation...can you say "More money than God?" while the rest of the country starves.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
5. damn, LA can't even get a whole LRT line because the Westside's terrified Lupe will
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

be able to travel towards their "safely" isolated Community faster than 5 mph

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