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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,465 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:53 PM Aug 2015

Off the Radar: Private Planes Hidden From Public View

From 2010.

Off the Radar: Private Planes Hidden From Public View

by Michael Grabell and Sebastian Jones
ProPublica, April 8, 2010, 10:12 p.m.

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland faced a congressional inquiry after flying his ministry’s tax-exempt jet to Maui and the Fiji Islands. ... South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds has been questioned about his use of state planes for political and personal trips. ... And after getting a $180 billion federal bailout, the insurance giant AIG caught flak for its fleet of corporate jets.

To prevent the public from seeing where they fly, all have over the years turned to a little-known program that lets private plane owners block their flights from view in the government’s system for tracking air traffic. ... The owners don’t have to meet any test to keep their flights secret. They merely submit a request to the National Business Aviation Association, a trade group that lobbied to set up the program on the grounds that secrecy is justified to protect business deals and the security of executives.

But in at least some cases, the program has also served as a refuge for plane owners who’ve faced bad publicity, according to a review by ProPublica of 1,100 blocked planes in the program. The list was obtained after a 15-month public records battle in which the business aviation group sued the FAA to keep it confidential. ... After a federal judge ruled that the records are public, the FAA provided the list this week.
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How the list came to be

Use of the national airspace is generally considered public information because pilots – whether airline captains or recreational fliers – rely on a system of air traffic controllers, radars, runways and taxiways, lighting systems and towers that are all paid for or subsidized by taxpayers. ... As a result, flight data collected by the FAA in its air traffic control system – except for military and sensitive government flights – is public information. Web sites such as FlightAware post the data online, allowing anyone to observe the system and follow most planes virtually in real time.
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Off the Radar: Private Planes Hidden From Public View (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 OP
So I gather all the electronic toll information should be public too? jberryhill Aug 2015 #1
The pilots make some good arguments. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #2
It's semi-public already. Jerry442 Aug 2015 #4
I wish I could travel unmonitored. n/t Wilms Aug 2015 #3
Where in the world is Josh Duggar? Flight plans for the Duggar's plane, tail number N68SY: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 #5

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,465 posts)
2. The pilots make some good arguments.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:17 PM
Aug 2015

I'm not crazy about the idea of everybody's knowing where I'm going.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,465 posts)
5. Where in the world is Josh Duggar? Flight plans for the Duggar's plane, tail number N68SY:
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:08 AM
Sep 2015

Hat tip, Joe.My.God: CLAIM: Josh Duggar Is Missing From Jesus Rehab

Josh Duggar is missing from treatment center: report

Vyckie Garrison, AlterNet
01 Sep 2015 at 20:00 ET

....
Today marks one full week since Josh Duggar was reported to have entered a rehab facility by the name of Reformers Unanimous, which is a facility that his parents, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar have supported many times in the past. The statement by his parents did not name the treatment center that Josh was attending.

Many of the media outlets seized upon Reformers Unanimous as the the treatment facility because of Jim Bob and Michelle’s involvement with the center. That, combined with the flight records of the Duggar‘s private plane showing a late night trip to Rockford, Illinois with a ten minute turn-around time between arriving at the Rockford airport and the aircraft departing for a return to the Springdale airport seemed to indicate that RU was where Josh would be serving out his long term ‘treatment’ for sex and pornography addiction.

There is only one big problem with that assumption. Not a soul in Rockford, Illinois has actually spotted Josh Duggar among the individuals receiving treatment at RU. He hasn’t been seen coming or going from any of the mandatory church services at North Love Baptist Church. This is especially odd considering the rules at Reformers Unanimous posted on their website claim it would be a mandatory part of everyone’s recovery process at RU. There has been absolutely no sightings of Josh anywhere in Rockford or RU. No sightings at all.
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But there is another possibility. According to publicly available flight plans on file with the FAA on August 27th, the Duggar plane went to Paragould, Arkansas and stayed much of that day before flying back to Springdale. There is no clear reason for the Duggars to be in Paragould. No known friends live there, it is across the state from their home and they own no businesses or land in Paragould. ... There are a few ministries and Christian-based therapy places in the Paragould area. Most treat women with chemical addictions. One of the places where it is possible Josh might be at in Paragould is the Grace Mission Bible Training Center. Grace lists addiction treatment as one of the services they offer.

News: Where in the World is Josh Duggar?

September 1, 2015 by Suzanne Calulu

While People Magazine and other tabloids are speculating mightily about the type of treatment Josh Duggar may be receiving at Reformers Unanimous in Illinois some rather curious news comes out of that area. No one in Rockford, Illinois has actually spotted Duggar among the other recovering addicts at RU. He hasn’t been seen coming or going from the mandatory twice a Sunday services at North Love Baptist Church. Which is odd considering it would be a mandatory part of his recovery process at RU. There has been absolutely no sightings of Josh anywhere in Rockford or RU.

What The Hollywood Channel points out in their article on the non-appearance of Josh is that on August 27th, the Duggar jet went to Paragould, Arkansas and stayed much of that day before flying back to Springdale. Which is most odd because there is no rehab center in Paragould, or reason for the Duggars to be in Paragould that is obvious.

So where in the world is Josh? What type of ‘rehab’ place is this? Did the family just simply place him again with a ‘family friend’ to do construction as he penance? This story just keeps getting stranger and more mysterious. For a family that likes to shove their children into the lime light they’re being awful quiet on where Josh actually is at the moment. Questions, questions.
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