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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:07 AM Feb 2012

Why is the Obama Administration Suddenly Fixated on Stomping out Medical Pot?


AlterNet / By Paul Armentano

Why is the Obama Administration Suddenly Fixated on Stomping out Medical Pot?
At the same time public support for marijuana legalization reached record highs, Obama shifted from one time medicinal cannabis sympathizer to White House weed-whacker.

February 8, 2012 |


Broken promises are nothing new in Washington, DC. Yet even by the Beltway’s jaded standards, President Obama’s role reversal from one time medicinal cannabis sympathizer to White House weed-whacker is remarkable.

Indeed, the man who once pledged on the campaign trail that he was “not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,” has – since taking the Presidential oaths of office – done virtually everything in his administration’s power to do precisely that. Yet he's taken these steps at the very time that a record number of Americans, including 57 percent of democrats and a whopping 69 percent of self-described liberals, endorse doing just the opposite. Nonetheless, in recent months, the Obama administration – via a virtual alphabet soup of federal agencies – has launched an unprecedented series of attacks against medical cannabis patients, providers, and in some cases even their advocates.

To review:

-- Deputy Attorney General James Cole, along with the four US Attorneys from California, has ramped up federal efforts to close or displace several hundreds of medical cannabis providers in California. Their tactics have included: raiding specific dispensaries and prosecuting their owners; filing civil forfeiture proceedings against landlords who rent their property to medical marijuana providers; threatening to federally prosecute newspapers and radio stations who accept ad revenue from medical cannabis operations; and, most recently, intimidating local lawmakers who have either enacted or are publicly supportive of cannabis oversight regulations. Speaking with radio station KQED San Francisco last month, Tommy LaNier – Director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy's National Marijuana Initiative – boasted about the administration’s efforts to strong-arm local officials, stating &quot We) have ... advised those places where they're trying to regulate marijuana -- which is illegal under the Control Substances Act -- (that) they cannot do that.” ..............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/154070/why_is_the_obama_administration_suddenly_fixated_on_stomping_out_medical_pot/



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Why is the Obama Administration Suddenly Fixated on Stomping out Medical Pot? (Original Post) marmar Feb 2012 OP
An eleven dimensional chess move of wondrously sagacious subtlety.. Fumesucker Feb 2012 #1
You may have a point n2doc Feb 2012 #2
Or - (not quite so) simply what ANY good attorney, pro or con, does when preparing a case. patrice Feb 2012 #10
" Last year, the DOJ also mailed letters to numerous state lawmakers": think Feb 2012 #3
Suddenly? Doctor_J Feb 2012 #4
And maybe a few more reasons...... DeSwiss Feb 2012 #6
Round of Applause Censor-Ready Feb 2012 #17
ding ding ding! We have a winner! (n/t) a2liberal Feb 2012 #19
plus one million.. xiamiam Feb 2012 #27
This is the correct answer, and, actually, woo me with science Feb 2012 #29
I think you got all the elements - TBF Feb 2012 #30
Astute analysis and best explanation yet for an oherwise stupid policy on point Feb 2012 #31
He still thinks the right wing will support him if he acts enough like them. Poor confused Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #5
hmm... chervilant Feb 2012 #7
Probably overcompensation caused by having a small desire for Justice Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #8
Hypotheses: There are people who believe that the best way to teach someone to swim is to patrice Feb 2012 #9
IOW, kind of like what went on around the repeal of DODT. nt patrice Feb 2012 #11
My guess is so that he looks "resaonable and compasionate" Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #12
The Federal Government simply doesn't want to let go of the power it grabbed for itself back in 1970 iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #13
lot of truth in those words RainDog Feb 2012 #16
As I understand it, this doesn't emanate from Obama, but from a rogue Attorney General -- byronius Feb 2012 #14
CIA showed him that JFK clip no one else gets to see. Festivito Feb 2012 #15
here is why it will never be legal madrchsod Feb 2012 #18
So many insightful comments libodem Feb 2012 #20
I support fully legal pot. But isn't the Prez. just enforcing existing laws? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #21
Wants to cut out competition for the government? No, no sarcasm intended, unfortunately. webDude Feb 2012 #22
You gotta remember Mopar151 Feb 2012 #23
Its a myth that they are. They've went after a mere fraction of the medical marijuana operations.... phleshdef Feb 2012 #24
Large deposits The Wizard Feb 2012 #25
Deposits The Wizard Feb 2012 #26
not a good way to woo california voters..illegal marijuana is very 20th century..we've moved along xiamiam Feb 2012 #28

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
1. An eleven dimensional chess move of wondrously sagacious subtlety..
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:17 AM
Feb 2012

By appearing to hate pot smokers Obama is making the tea baggers love them so the baggers'll vote for legalizing the herb.



n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. You may have a point
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:20 AM
Feb 2012

How can congressional repubs vote for the drug wars if Obama supports them? He should offer to have the House leadership join him in making a strong statement against Pot!

 

think

(11,641 posts)
3. " Last year, the DOJ also mailed letters to numerous state lawmakers":
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012
including the Governors of Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, as they were debating legislation to allow for the licensed distribution of medical cannabis. The letters threatened federal prosecution for those involved with said efforts – including, in some cases, state civil servants – if the measures went forward.


And the proctologist said "Cough"....
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Suddenly?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:58 AM
Feb 2012

It's been more than a year since they started their crusade. I see two possible reasons:

1. Trying to garner a few more votes from the far right
2. Trying to show that Holder can actually do something

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. And maybe a few more reasons......
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:21 PM
Feb 2012

3. Doing the bidding of BIG PHARMA (who can't patent Mother Nature - yet) -- and in order to gain larger campaign contributions.
4. Doing the bidding of the LIQUOR LOBBY (who is afraid of the competition) -- and in order to gain larger campaign contributions.
5. Doing the bidding of the PRIVATE PRISON INDUSTRY (to avoid the inevitable decrease in the prisoner population by decriminalizing weed) -- and in order to gain larger campaign contributions.
6. Doing the bidding of the BIG BANKING (who launder the money for criminals such as the CIA, et.al., who then use said money to fund their black projects) -- and in order to gain larger campaign contributions.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
29. This is the correct answer, and, actually,
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:34 AM
Feb 2012

there were several stories in the news recently about a new cannabis drug being developed for commercial sale very soon by the big drug companies.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
30. I think you got all the elements -
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:02 AM
Feb 2012

but when big pharma figures out how to patent it (which will likely be through devices as opposed to the actual weed) I'm guessing we'll see a very fast turn-around to market. You know they want those profits ...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. He still thinks the right wing will support him if he acts enough like them. Poor confused
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:15 AM
Feb 2012

thing that he is. Yeah, the GOP will rush to his side if he just opposes pot and marriage equality! That's what he thinks. Still. Slow on the uptake in some personal areas, this President. Thinks the GOP sill might like him.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
7. hmm...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:25 PM
Feb 2012

Gotta meet the expectations of Big Pharma supporters, ya'll. Given the diverse sources of medical weed, the profit margin for the Big Pharma corporatists would be mightly slim...

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
8. Probably overcompensation caused by having a small desire for Justice
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:33 PM
Feb 2012

in regards to prosecuting the torture and war crimes of the previous administration.

Thanks for the thread, marmar.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. Hypotheses: There are people who believe that the best way to teach someone to swim is to
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
Feb 2012

throw them into the deep-end of the swimming pool.

Necessity IS the mother of invention.

Challenge winnows out the light-weights and makes the remainder muscular.

One of the best ways to learn is to make mistakes.

Assessment precedes strategy.

.....................................................

Of course, I have no idea if any of these are relevant, so, from my limited-info perspective, the possibility that they are is equal to the possibility that they aren't. The same might be said higher-up in the food chain, so what will happen will depend upon what happens.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
12. My guess is so that he looks "resaonable and compasionate"
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:22 PM
Feb 2012

when Big Pharma is allowed to sell its over-priced, over regulated Sativex, and future products. Its all about the money.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
13. The Federal Government simply doesn't want to let go of the power it grabbed for itself back in 1970
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:25 PM
Feb 2012

When they passed the controlled substances act and created the DEA it was the perfect excuse
to violate the 4th ammendment rights of American citizens. Now you can't tell the difference between
local law enforcement and soldiers fighting overseas. Too many corporations and governement agencies
are making money hand over fist to just let this go. It's government by the money, and for the money.
People no longer count. We think slavery ended a long time ago, but in reality it never left us. This isn't about
drugs. It's all about the power and the money. We should do everything that we can to vote against prohibitionists
in every level of our government.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
16. lot of truth in those words
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:40 PM
Feb 2012

once someone or some entity has power in some way - they don't relinquish it easily.

Sometimes they have to be forced to do the right thing. I'd rather spend taxpayer money on jobs with dignity, not prison jobs and the forced labor within.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
14. As I understand it, this doesn't emanate from Obama, but from a rogue Attorney General --
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

-- who is trying to destroy Obama's base in California.

If so, this article helps him enormously. I do not believe Obama directly controls the US Attorneys as Bush did, having chosen instead to return to the standard practice of autonomy. This is a good thing, unless a Bush-appointed rogue who Obama allowed to remain in his position is now using Obama's sense of justice against him. I.e., Cole.

Theoretically, Cole is only closing dispensaries near schools. In practice, right-wing communities are being emboldened by Cole's efforts to decertify every dispensary in their jurisdiction, which is ironically quite stupid, since the blue districts then get the flood of cash that used to fill the coffers of the red districts. Sacramento is surviving only because of this money.

I don't think Obama is involved in this at all, but I do think his sense of fairness plays into the hands of the sociopathic criminals that are the Republican Party.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
15. CIA showed him that JFK clip no one else gets to see.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
Feb 2012

CIA cannot pad their future inheritances without the drug money funding their operations.

Otherwise 6 and 13 have it right.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
21. I support fully legal pot. But isn't the Prez. just enforcing existing laws?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:26 PM
Feb 2012

After all MJ is illegal according to the federal government.

It is an interesting question as to which laws the government chooses to enforce.

Ultimately if we don't want to be harassed by the government, we've got to do something to change the laws.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
23. You gotta remember
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Feb 2012

The righties will respond to any effort by this administration to legalize pot, whether medical or recreational, as pandering to "the dirty hippies".
Many on the right, and more than a few on the left, compare pot to hard liquor or heroin interms of long-term physical effects, and they can't conceive of a high different that booze, or pain releif more effective than whacking doses of Oxy.
Potheads know that legal recreational pot users will turn into the herbal equivalent of wine snobs. "Hey Joe, you wanna come over for the Sunday night game? I just got a nice bud of Vermont Purple, and Lisa's makin' nachos!"
Drug Warriors still think legal weed will turn us into slavering wretches, worse than those addicted to Night Train or nicotine.

And, finally that the Prez has to walk a fine line here, because of the disproportionate response involved. Teabaggeers and fundies will be bleating about "The Lost Children" and "Defending Youth from Drugs in the Schools", and Limbaugh will be calling Obama "America's #1 Pusher". Any voices of reason will be shouted down from multiple directions.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
24. Its a myth that they are. They've went after a mere fraction of the medical marijuana operations....
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012

...in the states that allow it. And pretty much in every case, theres been a reason for it, whether it be the state requesting that these particular operations be shut down or because the operation wasn't following certain regulations.

Go look at the number of dispensaries that actually exist and continue to run untouched compared to the number they've actually shut down and then try to make an argument that theres some "obsession" here. Thats just absolute bullshit and its an argument that completely falls apart in the face of the sheer mathematics involved.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
28. not a good way to woo california voters..illegal marijuana is very 20th century..we've moved along
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:06 AM
Feb 2012

wish our elected leaders would do the same

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