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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:27 PM Feb 2012

Catholic Bishops now demanding ALL businesses be able to opt out of contraception coverage

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Catholic Bishops now demanding all businesses be able to opt out of contraception coverage, not just Catholic hospitals thkpr.gs/wC9q1j
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WASHINGTON – Congressional leaders and Republican presidential candidates joined Catholic religious groups Wednesday in denouncing the Obama administration's mandate requiring health insurers to offer birth control coverage, but the White House stood its ground.

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The rule goes into effect Aug. 1, but if objections are raised, another year's extension is possible.

That was no consolation to Catholic leaders. The White House is "all talk, no action" on moving toward compromise, said Anthony Picarello, general counsel for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. "There has been a lot of talk in the last couple days about compromise, but it sounds to us like a way to turn down the heat, to placate people without doing anything in particular," Picarello said. "We're not going to do anything until this is fixed."

That means removing the provision from the health care law altogether, he said, not simply changing it for Catholic employers and their insurers. He cited the problem that would create for "good Catholic business people who can't in good conscience cooperate with this."


"If I quit this job and opened a Taco Bell, I'd be covered by the mandate," Picarello said.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-02-08/catholics-contraceptive-mandate/53014864/1



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Catholic Bishops now demanding ALL businesses be able to opt out of contraception coverage (Original Post) Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP
How about the bishops stick with what they are good at...indoctrination AnOhioan Feb 2012 #1
i suggest that they opt out of pedophilia. Just saying. roguevalley Feb 2012 #21
How long can those old men in dresses force their dogma into law Warpy Feb 2012 #2
But my Protestant church allows abortion; so aren't the Bishops limiting my religion? Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #26
Methinks the Bishops should turn their undivided attention to pedophile priests and leave shraby Feb 2012 #3
+1000 ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #8
These Hypocrites 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #4
Of course, b/c "Every Sperm is Sacred" NAO Feb 2012 #5
The Church once claimed this; Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #27
The Church (RCC) Still Claims this NAO Feb 2012 #28
Sorry... richmwill Feb 2012 #6
DO NOT impose your religious beliefs onto those who are not part of your religion! benld74 Feb 2012 #7
I believe all catholic hospitals should treat patients free of charge. nt julian09 Feb 2012 #9
That would only partially make up for the harm their pedophilic kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #11
Bring. It. On. Baby. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #10
another fight the church will lose RainDog Feb 2012 #12
What a crock. bayareamike Feb 2012 #13
What a joke. Lugnut Feb 2012 #14
I think these men should mind their own business.... midnight Feb 2012 #15
What about Unitarians and Methodists and others who do JDPriestly Feb 2012 #16
Why do we continue to let pedophiles 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #17
This will lead to the refighting of Obamacare. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #18
Where's Thomas Paine when you need him. eyewall Feb 2012 #19
My position is that any CAtholic that gives money to the Catholic Church Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #20
People need to remember.... raging_moderate Feb 2012 #22
good luck with that shit....They can "demand" all they want... Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #23
When the priests stop diddling the altar boys The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #24
Total BS. Jewish employers can't stop you from eating bacon. McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 #25
Here's a LINK to an additional ARTICLE Tx4obama Feb 2012 #29

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
2. How long can those old men in dresses force their dogma into law
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:32 PM
Feb 2012

before they get a visit from the IRS telling them they will be taxed like any other political organization?

This had better be done soon, or they won't stop their attack against the female half of this country.

It's the only way to force them back into caring for the souls of the faithful rather than trying to bully and murder the rest of us.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. Methinks the Bishops should turn their undivided attention to pedophile priests and leave
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:33 PM
Feb 2012

the women alone. They have a big enough problem with the men in their church.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
8. +1000
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012

Some caller on NPR (Diane Rehm) this morning mentioned that. He was lambasted by one of the guests for bringing it up - but of course they ignored the caller's additional comments that men had no business dictating to women how to run their lives.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
27. The Church once claimed this;
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:34 PM
Feb 2012

obviously it makes many silly mistakes, on reproductive issues especially. It is not infallible on this issue.

How much do priests know about sex, anyway?

NAO

(3,425 posts)
28. The Church (RCC) Still Claims this
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:20 PM
Feb 2012

I spoke to a devout Catholic today who is an employee of an RCC and an expert on Chuch history and doctrine. They still claim this. Seriously.

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
6. Sorry...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:45 PM
Feb 2012

I am 37 years old and have never allowed the Catholic Church to run any facet of my life. I will not be buckling to their demands any time soon, obviously including now.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
11. That would only partially make up for the harm their pedophilic
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:28 AM
Feb 2012

priests have done to this country.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
12. another fight the church will lose
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:39 AM
Feb 2012

maybe after 500 years of women being considered equally worth health care that they choose for themselves, just like with Galileo, the church will apologize for its years of ignorance about a subject they are really not qualified to discuss.

bayareamike

(602 posts)
13. What a crock.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:47 AM
Feb 2012

I actually had some sympathy for the Church when they had limited themselves to Catholic organizations, but this seems to show their 'true colors'.

That Taco Bell example is such a joke.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. What about Unitarians and Methodists and others who do
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:16 AM
Feb 2012

believe that contraception encourages responsible sex?

Don't we all have the same right to religious freedom?

Why should my kids who are Unitarians be deprived of the right to have contraception just because Catholics don't want it?

The whole thing makes no sense. The Catholic Church wants to deprive many of its employees who are not Catholic of full healthcare benefits. That makes the Catholic Church look really bad. Especially after the child abuse scandals. How hypocritical can you get?

Religious freedom belongs to the individual employee. Employers by definition are organizations. The organization does not have religious faith or religious morality. It reflects the religious faith and morality of its members and employees. If the employees of the Catholic Church's hospitals and schools want to have contraception, that is a matter of the employee's religious beliefs, not of the employer's.


 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
17. Why do we continue to let pedophiles
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:42 AM
Feb 2012

control "normal" adult sexual decisions? By normal I only mean non-priest, er uh um, non pedophile behavior.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
18. This will lead to the refighting of Obamacare.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

Just in time for the election. If anyone thinks the GOP does not want to run against Obamacare...think again. It should be scrapped before it is too late and Medicare for all replace it. If the GOP can make this about the awful Obamacare deal it will be a replay of 2010. Catholic Hospitals make the Church a lot of money.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
20. My position is that any CAtholic that gives money to the Catholic Church
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:18 PM
Feb 2012

supports the church on this matter

raging_moderate

(147 posts)
22. People need to remember....
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:39 PM
Feb 2012

there was a day when people weren't allowed, under the threat of even death, to "opt out of" the Catholic Church. When will this country wake up and put things straight and shoot down the Theocracy wannabees??

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
24. When the priests stop diddling the altar boys
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:29 PM
Feb 2012

the Catholic Church might regain a tiny shred of moral authority. Until that happens the bishops can just STFU.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
25. Total BS. Jewish employers can't stop you from eating bacon.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:21 PM
Feb 2012

While should Catholic employers stop you from taking the pill?

If a Catholic employer requires that employees convert in order to get a job, then they have violated the law.

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