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Mika

(17,751 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:35 PM Feb 2015

WHY DOES THE FBI HAVE TO MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM AND ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS?





WHY DOES THE FBI HAVE TO MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM AND ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS?

The FBI and major media outlets yesterday trumpeted the agency’s latest counterterrorism triumph: the arrest of three Brooklyn men, ages 19 to 30, on charges of conspiring to travel to Syria to fight for ISIS (photo of joint FBI/NYPD press conference, above). As my colleague Murtaza Hussain ably documents, “it appears that none of the three men was in any condition to travel or support the Islamic State, without help from the FBI informant.” One of the frightening terrorist villains told the FBI informant that, beyond having no money, he had encountered a significant problem in following through on the FBI’s plot: his mom had taken away his passport. Noting the bizarre and unhinged ranting of one of the suspects, Hussain noted on Twitter that this case “sounds like another victory for the FBI over the mentally ill.”

In this regard, this latest arrest appears to be quite similar to the overwhelming majority of terrorism arrests the FBI has proudly touted over the last decade. As my colleague Andrew Fishman and I wrote last month — after the FBI manipulated a 20-year-old loner who lived with his parents into allegedly agreeing to join an FBI-created plot to attack the Capitol — these cases follow a very clear pattern:


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WHY DOES THE FBI HAVE TO MANUFACTURE ITS OWN PLOTS IF TERRORISM AND ISIS ARE SUCH GRAVE THREATS? (Original Post) Mika Feb 2015 OP
third post for this grasswire Feb 2015 #1
Thanks for posting this article. It's the only time I've ever seen it. People need to know. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #2
And what about the JFK "lone shooter," and the plot behind 9/11??? blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #3
Because fear is a good tool awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #4
A long tradition /nt jakeXT Feb 2015 #5
Indeed..almost perfected to an ART ...these days. n/t KoKo Feb 2015 #6
WHY DOES GREENWALD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW STING OPERATIONS WORK? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #7
That's how the heritage foundation got to 60 terror plots since 9/11 in 2013 jakeXT Feb 2015 #8
This tactic is called "The Hegelian Dialectic" imthevicar Feb 2015 #9

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
8. That's how the heritage foundation got to 60 terror plots since 9/11 in 2013
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 04:46 AM
Feb 2015
Human Rights Concerns
We documented the following patterns that
raise serious human rights concerns:

Discriminatory investigations, often
targeting particularly vulnerable
individuals (including people with intellectual and mental disabilities and
the indigent), in which the government—often acting through informants—
is actively involved in developing
the plot, persuading and sometimes
pressuring the target to participate,
and providing the reso
urces to carry it
out.

Use of overly broad material support charges, punishing behavior that did
not demonstrate intent
to support terrorism.

Prosecutorial tactics that may violate fa
ir trial rights, such as introducing
prejudicial evidence—including evidence obtained by coercion, classified
evidence that cannot be fairly contes
ted, and inflammatory evidence about
terrorism in which defendants played
no part; and limited ability to
challenge surveillance warrants due to
excessive government secrecy.

Harsh and at times abusive conditions
of confinement, which often appear
excessive in relation to the security risk posed. These include:

Prolonged solitary confinement and se
vere restrictions on communicating
in pretrial detention, possibly impeding
defendants’ ability to assist in their
own defense and contributing
to their pleading guilty.

Excessive lengthening of sentence
s and draconian conditions post-
conviction, including prolonged so
litary confinement and severe
restrictions on contact with famil
ies or others, sometimes without
explanation or recourse. One detainee called it “a touch of hell”: “My
children... could see, but not touch me
as though I had some sort of
contagious disease.”

Taken together, these patterns have contri
buted to cases in which individuals who
perhaps would never have participated in a
terrorist act on their own initiative and
might not even had the capacity to do
so, were prosecuted for serious, yet
government-created, terrorism plots.
In other cases, people who contributed to
charities in the Middle East ended up
convicted of “material support” based on fl
imsy connections to al
leged terrorism.
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/usterrorism0714_ForUpload_0_0_0.pdf


60 Terrorist Plots Since 9/11: Continued Lessons in Domestic Counterterrorism
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/60-terrorist-plots-since-911-continued-lessons-in-domestic-counterterrorism

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
9. This tactic is called "The Hegelian Dialectic"
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 08:49 AM
Feb 2015

Problem, Reaction, Solution. They create a problem, (Potential Bomb Plot, terrorist in the Bathroom at the local library, Whatever.) Control the reaction (raise your fear level, get you angry, what ever they need.) And then by the Miracle of their genius They have a solution. (usually war, bombing, or boots on the ground.)We have been bread and lead.

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