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Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:14 PM Apr 2012

Senate Seeks Ways To Save Ailing US Postal Service

Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON — With big postal cuts looming, the Senate is deciding whether to stabilize the ailing U.S. Postal Service with a short-term cash infusion while delaying most decisions on closing post offices and ending Saturday mail delivery by requiring further review.

The mail agency, teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, says it needs to begin closing thousands of low-revenue post offices and mail processing centers this year as part of a billion-dollar cost-cutting effort to become profitable again by 2015. But local communities are fretting about the economic impact and tens of thousands of layoffs, drawing the concerns of lawmakers in an election year.

Late last year, Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe agreed to delay closings until May 15 so that Congress would have time to pass legislation to shore up the agency's finances.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/postal-service-cuts-senate_n_1431714.html?ref=politics



At the very end of 2006, Congress passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA). Under PAEA, USPS was forced to “prefund its future health care benefit payments to retirees for the next 75 years in an astonishing ten-year time span” — meaning that it had to put aside billions of dollars to pay for the health benefits of employees it hasn’t even hired yet, something “that no other government or private corporation is required to do.”

Contact your congressional leaders and tell them to end the PAEA mandate that is killing the USPS http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
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Senate Seeks Ways To Save Ailing US Postal Service (Original Post) Galraedia Apr 2012 OP
Oh, BULLSHIT. They know exactly how to save the USPS--don't make them fund retirement all Nay Apr 2012 #1
if a dem had said that a business needed to show a 75-year profit margin prior zbdent Apr 2012 #4
No kidding. This really ISN'T a heavy lift! annabanana Apr 2012 #5
Exactly Hawkowl Apr 2012 #7
Ain't that the truth.... Smilo Apr 2012 #8
The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #19
this stupid requirement UpInArms Apr 2012 #30
1.) Sell it to Halliburton. 2.) Require that everyone spend $200 a month in stamps. MisterP Apr 2012 #2
They could put the money back they took from the Post Office liberal N proud Apr 2012 #3
Thanks. Contacting. elleng Apr 2012 #6
Letter to my Senators. May be used by others. elleng Apr 2012 #9
Retirement funding future 75 years and beyond Iliyah Apr 2012 #10
The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #20
Wouldnt a year comparison be better to use rather than a 3 month one? cstanleytech Apr 2012 #25
Unfortunately, that is the only time period for which they did not fund their pension. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #26
A tax on email? I suspect that would go over as well as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #32
I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible. Even just one cent per email would go a long way? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #33
And how do you propose to tax it? What about the free emailers? How about IMs? Tax them to? cstanleytech Apr 2012 #34
Democrats should have dealt with this issue during the last congress. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #11
75 Years of retirement funding in 10 years? That can't be true. gtar100 Apr 2012 #12
Ed Schultz mentioned it. Galraedia Apr 2012 #15
The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #21
Thanks for bringing this up again. It's so unfair what they've done to the USPS. freshwest Apr 2012 #13
Here's your solution: Reverse what the Thugs did in 2006. anti-alec Apr 2012 #14
The GOP dismantling of the USPS in 3 easy steps thelordofhell Apr 2012 #16
Thanks for bringing it into real focus. I hadn't considered Step 3, but of COURSE you're right! Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #17
The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #22
Anyone tight with a Congressperson? Get a dozen of them on board to reverse this ASAP!! SaveAmerica Apr 2012 #18
1. Don't make them fund 75 years of retirement benefits. KamaAina Apr 2012 #23
The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #24
Repugs want to privatize postal service. julian09 Apr 2012 #27
Already spiraling by then, in '10 they fired everyone on my husband's shift at distribution ctr SaveAmerica Apr 2012 #28
Rally in Charlotte, NC to get Senators to create amendments to Act that will help USPS SaveAmerica Apr 2012 #29
Thanks for this thread about the Post Office senseandsensibility Apr 2012 #31

Nay

(12,051 posts)
1. Oh, BULLSHIT. They know exactly how to save the USPS--don't make them fund retirement all
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

the way for the next 75 years!! Like no other company, public or private, is required to do!

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
4. if a dem had said that a business needed to show a 75-year profit margin prior
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:26 PM
Apr 2012

he would be called anti-business in America.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
5. No kidding. This really ISN'T a heavy lift!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:26 PM
Apr 2012

They are trying to kill the Post Office, not save it.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
19. The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:26 PM
Apr 2012

during that time period.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
30. this stupid requirement
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:13 PM
Apr 2012

Was an agreement that was done because the Bush admin wanted it to fund the debt he was racking up - it made that particular spending bio "debt neutral "

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
2. 1.) Sell it to Halliburton. 2.) Require that everyone spend $200 a month in stamps.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:19 PM
Apr 2012

3.) Toot their own horn about how they guaranteed that everyone has $200 worth of mail now! Whee!

elleng

(131,077 posts)
9. Letter to my Senators. May be used by others.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:48 PM
Apr 2012

I understand the Senate is presently considering taking action to stabilize the U.S. Postal Service with a short-term cash infusion while delaying most decisions on closing post offices and ending Saturday mail delivery.

I expect you recognize the real solution to this problem would be to end the ill-considered PAEA mandate that is killing the USPS. Your support of such action would gain my contuing support.

Yours truly,

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. Retirement funding future 75 years and beyond
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:52 PM
Apr 2012

is total bullshit. Congress can save the US Post Office but the goppers want it to fail alongwith America. They are such hateful people.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
20. The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

during that time period.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
26. Unfortunately, that is the only time period for which they did not fund their pension.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:35 PM
Apr 2012

The pension is not the reason they are hemorrhaging money. The business is just changing. A tax on email would probably go a long way.

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
32. A tax on email? I suspect that would go over as well as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:41 PM
Apr 2012

Edit: BTW you dont have to keep repeating the same thing over and over in the thread unless of course your padding your post count.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
33. I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible. Even just one cent per email would go a long way?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:31 PM
Apr 2012

Is there a reward or some sort for more posts?

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
34. And how do you propose to tax it? What about the free emailers? How about IMs? Tax them to?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:50 PM
Apr 2012

And no, there is no reward though there are some people who are vain enough to believe that a higher post count makes what they say more important that what someone else says.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
11. Democrats should have dealt with this issue during the last congress.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
Apr 2012

The GOP is hell bent on destroying the USPS. They know what it takes to save it, and they won't do a damn thing about it. Yet another missed opportunity.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
12. 75 Years of retirement funding in 10 years? That can't be true.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:35 PM
Apr 2012

CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX aren't mentioning it in their hourly news updates or news shows. All they're saying is that the Post Office is going bankrupt.

Therefore, Congress doesn't care and the great masses don't see it.

Need any more proof of intentional propaganda and manipulation of the US? Well, of course not on DU. But out in the great expanse of the US, ignorance reigns supreme and Congress takes advantage of it.

What can we do? Tell everyone we know about it. In fact, tell them this:

1) The Post Office does not receive taxpayer money; it has been a self-sustaining operation.

2) The law requiring 75 years of retirement funding to be accumulated and set aside in 10 years was all done by Republicans. Who else?

People will not hear about it from their favorite news anchor tool working for CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX. They all suck and do their best to only tell you what they want you to hear.

Only real liberal media will tell the truth.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
21. The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

during that time period.

 

anti-alec

(420 posts)
14. Here's your solution: Reverse what the Thugs did in 2006.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:45 PM
Apr 2012

There is no need to pre-pay the pension funds any more - they are sufficiently funded for the next 40 years.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
16. The GOP dismantling of the USPS in 3 easy steps
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:04 PM
Apr 2012

Step 1-----make the USPS prefund 75 years worth of retiree benefits

Step 2-----sell off now ailing USPS

Step 3-----buyers loot the overfunded benefit system

Judi Lynn

(160,601 posts)
17. Thanks for bringing it into real focus. I hadn't considered Step 3, but of COURSE you're right!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:12 PM
Apr 2012

Monstrously conceived, isn't it?

They decided to fatten it before they kill it. Pure evil.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
22. The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:28 PM
Apr 2012

during that time period.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
18. Anyone tight with a Congressperson? Get a dozen of them on board to reverse this ASAP!!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:24 PM
Apr 2012

Let's say they get this next temporary save. We should set up a place here on DU to keep track of DUers who are in talks with their Congressperson until we have a decent number of them who agree to work on it.

Ten years from the passing of this act is only 4 years away, where is that money? What will happen to it if the Post Office folds? Why can't that money be used to fix the Post Office's deficits?

Signed, someone whose husband works in the PO and has been looking for a job JIC and has a dark vision of the future that involves a no-bid contract and more money in Dick Cheney's pocket.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
24. The USPS did not fund it's pension from 08/2011 through 11/2011 and still lost billions
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:32 PM
Apr 2012

during that time period.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
27. Repugs want to privatize postal service.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:45 PM
Apr 2012

They passed this in lame duck session of 06 before Polosi became speaker in 07.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
28. Already spiraling by then, in '10 they fired everyone on my husband's shift at distribution ctr
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:09 PM
Apr 2012

He was safe because he was deployed to Iraq (Ha Ha but not really). Some post offices and distribution centers closed and work was re-routed to those that stayed open, levels of mail rise in places where numbers of employees lower, the result; a mess. People get mad because delivery isn't as efficient and stop using the PO for whatever even if they they're paying more for a service that doesn't do as much and is closed on the weekend. More mess to the mess, welcome to 08/2011 to 11/2011.

A mess was made, the desperate fix made it worse and people complain thinking that it's just the PO's fault because your average man on the street doesn't know the details.

We really need to work together to put out these fires everywhere.

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