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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:24 AM Jan 2015

Buddhist monk calls UN expert 'whore' over Muslim support

Source: France 24

A prominent Burmese monk has been castigated by both the international community and fellow Buddhists for calling a female UN representative campaigning for the rights of minority Rohingya Muslims a “whore”.

Buddhist monks protest against visiting UN Special Rapporteur on Myanmar Yanghee Lee in Rangoon.


Nationalist monk Ashin Wirathu, who is known in Burma for his loose tongue, devoted a diatribe to human rights rapporteur Yanghee Lee, who is battling to highlight the plight of the country’s stateless and isolated Rohingya Muslims, up to 140,000 of which have been displaced by ongoing violence in the poor western state of Rakhine.

“We have already made [our] Race Protection Law public. But this bitch, without studying [the legislation], kept on complaining how it is against human rights,” the Democratic Voice of Burma quoted him as saying.

“Just because some loud-mouthed women say so,” he continued. “Can this bitch be from a respectable background?”



Read more: http://www.france24.com/en/20150121-burma-buddhist-monk-un-expert-whore-anti-muslim-wirathu/



Well, so much for equanimous, pacifist Buddhism!


I hope his fellow monks manage to get a muzzle on Ashin Wirathu PDQ. He sounds like a real misogynist dick!
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Buddhist monk calls UN expert 'whore' over Muslim support (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 OP
Buddhists are not as .... Delver Rootnose Jan 2015 #1
Like Christians who Don't really represent Jesus, All Buddhists aren't necessarily orpupilofnature57 Jan 2015 #2
Yes, and certain Buddhist factions are persecuting the Muslim Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #3
Extremist Buddhists have killed tens of thousands in Myanmar and Sri Lanka Recursion Jan 2015 #4
Whatever their stripe--religious dogma wielded in order to dominate. Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #5
As a Buddhist myself, I'm appalled vlyons Jan 2015 #6
Just because he calls himself a devotee of the Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #9
That's why we must have compassion for him and vlyons Jan 2015 #12
I trust that some of his fellow monks are reading him Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #13
Is there a Buddhist equivalent of the tea party? n/t bvf Jan 2015 #7
One might be led to believe so! Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #8
It is puzzling. bvf Jan 2015 #14
What kind of language is that for a monk? 7962 Jan 2015 #10
I've heard that at least some of those "Buddhist monks" in Myanmar... Ken Burch Jan 2015 #11
Well, the army had such a strangle-hold on every Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #15
Yes even Buddhism. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #16
'"Zen" at War', the irony boggles the mind... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #17
Once again, a faction isn't an exception to the " Buddha " just like Jesus orpupilofnature57 Jan 2015 #19
once again the no true scotsman fallacy is sent out to defend the faithful. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #21
Once again you straighten me out , you and Gore, Thank you . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2015 #22
Here's some quick background on this dude: Ken Burch Jan 2015 #18
Thank You, He's not a Monk, He's a politician,,from birth . n/t orpupilofnature57 Jan 2015 #20

Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
1. Buddhists are not as ....
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jan 2015

..peaceful as many think. They were on one side of the bitter, deadly struggle in Sri lanka with the Tamil Tigers et al.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. Like Christians who Don't really represent Jesus, All Buddhists aren't necessarily
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:49 AM
Jan 2015

' The Enlightened One ' .

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. Yes, and certain Buddhist factions are persecuting the Muslim
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jan 2015

minority there as well.

My allusion to "peaceful" Buddhism was meant to be a bit sarcastic.

Should have added this, , I guess.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Extremist Buddhists have killed tens of thousands in Myanmar and Sri Lanka
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jan 2015


Religions generally don't do well when they're in the political majority.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
6. As a Buddhist myself, I'm appalled
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:20 AM
Jan 2015

It goes against a major tenet of Buddha's 8-fold path, which is the bit about "right speech." Right speech is supposed to help quell the disturbed emotions in others, to use reason when arguing points of disagreement, and to basically do no harm. He definitely needs to go sit down and meditate on right speech.

There are many different forms of Buddhism, just as there are many different Christian denominations. Burmese Buddhists are primarily Theravada, which is the "little vehicle." Theravadans focus on their own individual and personal liberation from suffering. The vast majority of Buddhists around the world, China, Japan, Mongolia, Tibet, are Mahayana Buddhists, or of the "greater vehicle." Mahayana Buddhists focus on compassion and helping others, who are suffering to be happy. BTW: traditionally, women in Buddhists societies have been 2nd class citizens just like everywhere else and in every other religion that isn't matriarchal. The Dalai Lama and the Karmapa have and are doing a lot to raise the status of women within that tradition. I don't know that much about Chinese and Zen Buddhists, but probably they have their heroes too that are working to raise the status of women also.

Let's hope that Ashin Wirathu will regret his words and apologize. Many leading Buddhist teachers are already reading him the riot act.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Just because he calls himself a devotee of the
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:25 AM
Jan 2015

8-fold path, doesn't mean he is!

"Right speech is supposed to help quell the disturbed emotions in others, to use reason when arguing points of disagreement, and to basically do no harm."

I guess he skipped this lesson...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
12. That's why we must have compassion for him and
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:39 AM
Jan 2015

read him the riot act. He does more harm to his cause with that language than he can possibly imagine. Most of us Buddhists fail frequently in our endeavor to practice the 8-fold path. That's why it's called "practice." That type of language comes from a mind that is angry and arrogant. Not exactly a mind that is centered in calm abiding. What we need to do is use reason in our speech to explain to him that such language is mean-spirited and harmful to others and to his own cause. He may have just grievances against some Moslems in his country, but really!!! Such language turns people off from supporting him for much of anything.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. I trust that some of his fellow monks are reading him
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jan 2015

a peaceful equivalent of the "riot act" as we speak...

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. It is puzzling.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:54 AM
Jan 2015

The alarming thing is that he probably believes that such outrageous public statements will find some support in his community. He wouldn't be so outspoken, otherwise, IMO. Hence my comparison.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. I've heard that at least some of those "Buddhist monks" in Myanmar...
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 08:35 AM
Jan 2015

...were later shown to be army officers in disguise.

It's hard to believe any actual monk anywhere would talk like that.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. Yes even Buddhism.
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jan 2015

No religioun is immune. You can drum these monks out of "true buddhism", but that is problematic.


Hakugen points to twelve characteristics of Japanese Zen which have contributed to its support for Japanese militarism:[6]

Subservience of Buddhism to the state.
Buddhist views on humanity and society. Though "Buddhism emphasizes the equality of human beings based on their possession of a Buddha nature",[7] the doctrine of Karma has also been used as a "moral justification for social inequality".[7]

Protection of the state and the hierarchical social structures.

Emphasis on sunyata and selflessness, "leaving no room for the independence of the individual".[8]

Lack of Buddhist dogma, which left no "compelling basic dogma a believer would fight to preserve".[9][a]

The concept of on, "the teaching that a debt of gratitude is owed to those from whom favors are received".[10] In the case of Japanese Zen, this gratitude was also owed to the Emperor, as "the head of the entire Japanese family".[10]

The belief in mutual dependency, which "led in modern Japan to an organic view of the state coupled with a feeling of intimacy towards it".[10]

The doctrine of the Middle Way, which "took the form of a constant search for compromise with the aim of avoiding confrontation before it occurred".[10]

The tradition of ancestor veneration, in which "the entire nation came to be regarded as one large family in which loyalty between subject and sovereign was the chief virtue".[10]

The value given to "old and mature things".[11] Since society was based "on a set of ancient and immutable laws",[11] opposition to this was unacceptable.

Emphasis on inner peace, which "contributed to its failure to encourage and justify the will to reorganize society".[11]

The Buddhist logic of Soku, "just as it is",[11] which leads to "a static, aesthetic perspective, a detached, subjective harmony with things"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_at_War
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
19. Once again, a faction isn't an exception to the " Buddha " just like Jesus
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 07:12 AM
Jan 2015

never advocated war, though so called Christians extract the justification for that, from flipping some tables over ? no the ' Liquid Logic ' all human beings use to rationalize what they do, to coincide with what they say they Believe .

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