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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:05 PM Apr 2012

(Public transit) Free Muni for S.F. kids could hit a few bumps

Source: SF Chronicle

San Francisco's Muni could be the first major transit system in the nation to offer free and unrestricted rides to youths.

The controversial pilot program will be voted on Tuesday by the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency's Board of Directors.

Although approval is expected, the sticking point is whether the perk should be limited to low-income youths or be extended to everyone ages 5 to 17. Children under 5 already ride free.

A well-organized contingent of students, parents and community activists, backed by the progressive flank of the Board of Supervisors and by the Board of Education, argues that free transit for all youths is about equity and would do more to promote the city's transit-first policy while grooming a new generation of transit riders.

(...)

The decision comes as the agency has struggled to close a projected $19.6 million deficit to balance the $796.8 million city budget for the new fiscal year that starts July 1, and a $33.6 million deficit to balance the following year's $810.5 million budget. Limited resources should be spent on maintaining Muni's aging fleet and trying to meet the lagging service standards, opponents argue.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/16/MNA11O25AT.DTL&ao=all



See also the Apr. 16 letters section of the Chronicle for two differing views from readers.

I think there's a reason why no other city has ever been able to do this; see the paragraph about the budget. In fact, the college I go to south of SF includes with student fees a county transit bus pass for unlimited rides throughout the semester. But the extent to which people can get cheaper rides on my local transit is thru buying a prepaid pass for a certain number of boardings, whether thru this pass that I use or any other available options.
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(Public transit) Free Muni for S.F. kids could hit a few bumps (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
Busmageddon in the making KamaAina Apr 2012 #1
Sorry, but children are people too CreekDog Apr 2012 #2
Of course they do KamaAina Apr 2012 #3
sheesh, i felt unwelcome on MUNI as a child CreekDog Apr 2012 #6
"free" rides are NOT free. youths should share the cost with everyone nt msongs Apr 2012 #4
maybe they should pay for their schooling too? CreekDog Apr 2012 #7
They can earn their keep pulling Lille wagons in the mines unc70 Apr 2012 #8
You should've added the bloody sarcasm tag/smilie sakabatou Apr 2012 #9
Buses are fare-free here for everyone! unc70 Apr 2012 #5
I anticipate hilarious amounts of caneshakery. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #10
! CreekDog Apr 2012 #11
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Busmageddon in the making
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:32 PM
Apr 2012

Certain Muni lines, like the 38-Geary, are already packed with wall-to-wall youths in the afternoon. Once it's free, I can pretty much guarantee you that's what it'll be like systemwide. Woe betide any grownups who are actually trying to, you know, go somewhere.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
2. Sorry, but children are people too
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
Apr 2012

as a kid who grew up on MUNI and was passed up at bus stops when there weren't adults waiting, children have places to go too. they have to use the bus for school, for doctor appointments, for getting across the city to family, etc.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Of course they do
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:11 PM
Apr 2012

just not thousands of them at once. You'll soon be reliving those memories of being passed up at bus stops, because the buses will be jam full.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. sheesh, i felt unwelcome on MUNI as a child
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:31 PM
Apr 2012

no wonder San Francisco has a reputation for being unfriendly to children.

unc70

(6,114 posts)
8. They can earn their keep pulling Lille wagons in the mines
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

Sorry, just kidding (Since some DUers seem to lack touch with reality).

unc70

(6,114 posts)
5. Buses are fare-free here for everyone!
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apr 2012

Try it, you might like it.

Here in Chapel Hill and Carrboro, the buses are "free" for everyone all the time. CH Transit is remarkable.

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