Westminster paedophile ring: Top Tory MP 'murdered girl at vile orgy' claims new witness

[Turborama]

Source: The Mirror

A victim of a VIP paedophile ring believes a girl of 15 was killed at a vile orgy.

The new witness has told police he watched the teenager being taken into a ­terrifying “medical room” by a senior Tory MP – and never saw her again.

The sickening events are said to have taken place at London’s notorious Dolphin Square flats in the 1990s, the Sunday People can reveal.

He fears the teenager may have been killed by a brutal sadist acting out his horrific fantasies.

It would make her the fourth reported murder victim of a Westminster-based pervert ring, some of them household names.

Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/westminster-paedophile-ring-top-tory-4957409#ICID=sharebar_facebook

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Strangely, there appears to be a media blackout regarding these developing stories and The Mirror seem to be the only paper covering it.

[bemildred]

1. Yeah, funny how some things don't get a lot of coverage.

Paedophiles and chicken hawks in high places definitely falls in that category.

[Turborama]

3. I'd be interested to hear what you think of this...

Warning, there are some very disturbing details towards the end of the discussion

[bemildred]

4. I don't do sound and video on this machine.

What do you want to know?

I know who Leon Brittan is, sort of.

[Turborama]

5. I've looked for something written that details it instead and found this...

https://g1rm.wordpress.com/2014/07/07/when-conspiracy-theory-becomes-real-thanks-to-leon-brittan/

[bemildred]

7. OK, I'll take a stab at it:

I think that certain parts of the ruling elites of the USA and Europe are decadent and rotten to the core and have been for centuries. I think this sort of thing is ubiquitous, pops up all over, but not that common. It is usually hard to tell fact from fantasy with these people, they are compulsive (obviously) and not well grounded in reality to start with.

I remember from my youth that young women past puberty were fair game as long as they were not from the upper classes. Motherhood was their destiny anyhow. My daughter once told me of a friend who told her she liked me because I didn't try to get funny with her. This girl was ten. That was the 70s. So I am willing to believe pretty much anything, but tend to be skeptical about details.

I think feminism has a lot to do with the new sensitivity about men who like them really young, those young women now resent having their lives hijacked by motherhood before they choose to do that themselves, because they have other options.

If there is something specific?

[mackerel]

28. Thanks for finding that link. I wish more of Jimmy Saville was exposed while he was alive.

I wonder who the IRA person is? Maybe Liam Adams?

[valerief]

13. You'd think millions of people were marching for peace or economic justice the way it's ignored. nt

[yeoman6987]

26. I think it's because it is unbelievable

It is so over the top that it is astounding and shocking that maybe it takes time to verify and ensure it is real and true. I am sure most outlets are trying to find out facts before reporting this horrific story. Last thing they want is another Rolling Stone mess. I think it is prudent that they ensure the facts are correct before reporting. What's a few more days for a story from the 90's?

[bemildred]

31. True enough, and sound thinking too.

I suppose I'm just not used to thinking of our news media in that sort of responsible public-spirited way. I expect them to go for the gore and gossip, and catapult the propaganda.

I would suggest that the abundance of their caution is much improved when the parties involved are parties they know personally.

[jakeXT]

2. I wonder if there is a Maxwell connection, but I have no clue

Ghislaine Maxwell: ‘I was not a madam for paedophile’

The daughter of disgraced Mirror newspapers chief Robert Maxwell said her character had been defamed.

Documents lodged with a court in Florida say the 53-year-old introduced her former boyfriend Epstein to powerful individuals, including Prince Andrew, after moving to New York in 1991 following the death of her father on his yacht.

According to the documents, a woman identified as Jane Doe 3 says Ms Maxwell asked her to visit Epstein’s Florida mansion when she was 15 years old.

The document says: “Epstein and Maxwell turned it into a sexual encounter, as they had done with many other victims.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/550085/Ghislaine-Maxwell-Jeffrey-Epstein-not-madam-paedophile-Florida-court-case-Prince-Andrew

[Gman]

6. Tory/Republican/pedophiles

It's in the breed.

[7962]

8. Careful, the left have enough of their own problems with it. Here or abroad.

Jeffery Epstein and his friends are the current proof of that. Others before them.
Regardless of affiliation, they ALL should be put away forever. Or worse.

[Gman]

9. The small handful of liberals is greatly surpassed

By right wing sickos. There is no comparison.

[Ash_F]

36. What's so Liberal about Epstein?

The guy was in finance and made his fortune helping the wealthy with "tax strategies".

I see that he donated to some scientific causes but so what? Nothing to causes the right wing hates like climate change.

[Archae]

10. Uh huh...yeah. Right.

Look up "McMartin Satanic abuse scandal," then get back to me.

[starroute]

12. You do know the rich and powerful are not random daycare providers?

The people who do these things are the people who can get away with them. The psychopaths who tend to gravitate towards positions of power. The members of the old boys' club who know any inconvenient evidence will be covered over and hushed up.

The fact that nursery school teachers have been accused of things that weren't true doesn't negate the possibility that those things were being done by those who really had the means, motives, and opportunities.

Those groundless accusations might even be seen as part of the coverup -- an attempt to made the whole subject of organized pedophilia and ritual abuse appear so ludicrous that it gets dropped by all respectable people. (Just as the threads on those subjects that appeared at DU regularly a decade ago were swept out in the wave of reaction against 911 Truthers.)

But this time around, the story seems to have legs. And it's particularly interesting that this latest charge concerns an incident from the 1990s. Previously stories I've seen referred to the late 1970s and early 80ss and involved people who are mostly now dead. Is there any reason to believe it ever stopped?

[Archae]

15. It's just as possible that much of it never happened.

The McMartin case began with a schizophrenic woman making up wild accusations, and snowballed from there.

I'm seeing the same pattern in these latest scandals.
Lots of wild accusations, but where is the evidence?

[notadmblnd]

19. Of course you know that random daycare providers are just the sort of people the rich and powerful

use to accomplish their dastardly deeds?

A really good book to read in regards to this subject by Maury Terry "The Ultimate Evil"

I recommend it highly.

[Tom Ripley]

38. Terry's book, while highly entertaining...

is not very credible.
There are certainly wealthy and powerful pedophiles, and most likely pedophile rings, but Terry's Satanic/occult conspiracy imaginings are laughable.

[WCLinolVir]

21. The death may not be documented, but the players have been.

[Archae]

24. Documented? Or accused?

[starroute]

16. Here are a couple of links to DU threads from back in the day

I'm not about to subscribe to some of the wilder claims contained in them. And I think that any similar discussions at DU today would quickly be alerted on as unfounded conspiracy theories. But for anyone who's interested, this is what was being discussed here a decade ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1591681

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3085974

[Hotler]

17. Ding, ding, ding, and we have a winner.

And don't forget the parties at Bohemian Grove where no reporters are allowed and only the PTB can attend.

[valerief]

20. Right. And look what happened to the Bushes. Nothing. nt

[zeemike]

25. What good is being profoundly rich and powerful if you can't get away with anything?

It is a goal of many.

[WhiteTara]

27. that's so true. None of these pedophiles will have anything

happen to them either; but at least the world will know what scum they are and the victims will at least be validated.

[HoosierCowboy]

14. Just do like the Bankers and Wall Street

Doing something really bad and illegal? Just pass a law to make it legal and go away.

[HatTrick]

18. Sounds like "Eyes Wide Shut (1999)"

Art once again becomes reality.

The rich have their own laws. We saw it with Wallstreet Banksters, and now with this.

When are we going to put an end to this crap?

[Dont call me Shirley]

22. Whenever you hear "this person is a pillar of the community" just know that person is perverse

beyond the normal person's ability to understand.

These "pillars" must be torn down in order for society to begin functioning in sanity. They are destroying the earth. They have no healthy boundaries. They seek only to fulfill their insane bizarre fantasies, no matter the consequences. We can no longer allow these sick and twisted aberrations of man to rule our world.

[Prophet 451]

23. not so much a media blackout

As The Mirror, not having much reputation, are willing to risk it more.

That said, having seen my faith (Satanism) dragged through the mud during the Satanic Panic, this may yet turn out to be bollocks.

[Shivering Jemmy]

30. These kind of vast rings of exploitation by powerful people

are almost always confabulation and the product of some kind of memory manipulation.


In the real world, gigantic conspiracies do not stay secret this long. Humans are just not that competent at keeping secrets.

Pedophiles, in reality, are usually people known to their attackers.

[Man from Pickens]

29. Anyone here aware of the Franklin Boys' Town scandal?

dates to the 80s... there was a documentary made, simply stunning in its revelations. There was an investigation which came to a full screeching stop once it started to touch GOP VIPs in DC. Still unresolved.

[libdem4life]

32. Yes, John de Camp, Nebraska Senator wrote a book...I have it. It was horrific.

from Amazon.... "The shut-down of Omaha, Nebraska's Franklin Community Federal Credit Union, raided by federal agencies in November 1988, sent shock waves all the way to Washington, D.C. $40 million was missing. The credit union's manager: Republican Party activist Lawrence E. "Larry" King, Jr., behind whose rise to fame and riches stood powerful figures in Nebraska politics and business, and in the nation's capital.

In the face of opposition from local and state law enforcement, from the FBI, and from the powerful Omaha World-Herald newspaper, a special Franklin committee of the Nebraska Legislature launched its own probe. What looked like a financial swindle, soon exploded into a hideous tale of drugs, Iran-Contra money-laundering, a nationwide child abuse ring, and ritual murder.

Nineteen months later, the legislative committee's chief investigator died - suddenly, and violently, like more than a dozen other people linked to the Franklin case.

Author John DeCamp knows the Franklin scandal from the inside. In 1990, his "DeCamp memo" first publicly named the alleged high-ranking abusers. Today, he is attorney for two of the abuse victims.

Using documentation never before made public, DeCamp lays bare not only the crimes, but the cover-up - a textbook case of how dangerous the corruption of institutions of government, and the press, can be. In its sweep and in what it portends for the nation, the Franklin cover-up followed the ugly precedent of the Warren Commission."

(The VIPs included the Bush Family)

Another version From Amazon books ..."A chilling exposé of corporate corruption and government cover-ups, this account of a nationwide child-trafficking and pedophilia ring in the United States tells a sordid tale of corruption in high places. The scandal originally surfaced during an investigation into Omaha, Nebraska's failed Franklin Federal Credit Union that went beyond the Midwest, ultimately to Washington, DC. Implicating businessmen, senators, major media corporations, the CIA, and even the venerable Boys Town organization, this extensively researched report includes firsthand interviews with key witnesses and explores a controversy that has received scant media attention.

[99th_Monkey]

34. Torture Advocate Alan Dershowitz Implicated In Related Sex Slave Lawsuit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6065867

[reACTIONary]

35. habeas corpus...

... show me the body.

[Recursion]

37. The Mirror has been Onioned a couple of times in the past

I don't know that it's a "blackout" so much as other outlets tend to try to confirm stories before they pring them.

[Turborama]

39. David Cameron personally orders Tories to open Whips 'dirt books' to child abuse investigators

=snip=

Mr Cameron’s decision came in a response to a letter from John Mann, the Labour MP who wrote to all party leaders last month urging them to “put all other considerations aside and urgently uncover and pass on any information relating to child abuse in your political party.

“In particular every living Whip needs to be questioned by their party on any evidence or rumours that were circulating at the time.”

Mr Mann said in the letter, sent on December 4, that there were “police inquiries on going into a number of former Members of Parliament, with at least 22 names alleged to have been involved”.

Mr Mann made reference to a 1995 BBC interview with Tim Fortescue, a Tory whip from 1970 to 1973, “in which he mentioned Parliamentary scandals ‘involving small boys’ that the Whips’ office would help to cover up”.

Full article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11343120/David-Cameron-personally-orders-Tories-to-open-Whips-dirt-books-to-child-abuse-investigators.html

Could be Cameron's "dead cat on the table" before May's election?

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/24/the-dead-cat-strategy-how-the-tories-hope-to-win-the-next-el