Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:53 AM Jan 2015

Rupert Murdoch: Muslims must be held responsible for France terror attacks

Source: The Guardian

Rupert Murdoch has been strongly criticised after tweeting that “most Muslims” – even if peaceful – must be held responsible for the religion’s “growing jihadist cancer” in the wake of the terror attacks in France.

The News Corp boss added his influential voice to the global discussion on terror that has convulsed social media since gunmen slaughtered 12 people at the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris on Wednesday.

Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible.

— Rupert Murdoch (@rupertmurdoch) January 10, 2015


Murdoch’s tweet on Saturday morning – which came in the wake of the killing of five more civilians at a kosher supermarket in Paris on Friday – was retweeted more than 1,500 times, and favourited by more than 767 people.

But the tweet angered many who criticised Murdoch for holding a religion of billions of peaceful people responsible for the actions of a minority of extremists.

@rupertmurdoch "they" as in most Muslims????? You can't hold an entire religion of billions responsive for the actions of a few

— beiruti brit (@BeirutiBrit) January 10, 2015


One Twitter user referenced Murdoch’s own responsiblity in the case of the News Corp phone-hacking scandal, while the Australian comedian Adam Hills was sceptical about the media mogul’s contribution to the debate.

@rupertmurdoch In the same way that you must be held responsible for ordering the hacking of the voicemails of dead school children?

— Michael Monan (@MichaelMonan1) January 10, 2015


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/10/rupert-murdoch-muslims-must-be-held-responsible-for-france-terror-attacks?CMP=fb_gu



Seen similar comments here recently.

More responses here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/10/rupert-mudoch-paris-attacks-charlie-hebdo_n_6447716.html?1420889203
47 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Rupert Murdoch: Muslims must be held responsible for France terror attacks (Original Post) Turborama Jan 2015 OP
In France the people know how the patriot act started RW "perveted values" Sunlei Jan 2015 #1
murdoch and fux news must be held accountable for roguevalley Jan 2015 #25
they will never be held acountable. Couldn't even get enough sigs on the white house petition Sunlei Jan 2015 #26
many here agree with Murdoch uhnope Jan 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Jan 2015 #30
You are right malletgirl02 Jan 2015 #32
Yep, here's another thread where the same sentiment's being expressed... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #44
The hacker of dead children's cell phones say what? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
Not only that, Murdocks main go to for hacking lived in florida when that state gave bush the electi Sunlei Jan 2015 #27
I think all Australians should be held responsible for Crocodile Dundee. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #3
He is nothing compared to the christx30 Jan 2015 #8
and Murdoch BillZBubb Jan 2015 #21
Absolutely! He has done horrendous damage to the well-being of this country. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2015 #28
Turborama Diclotican Jan 2015 #4
Okay, than Southerners should be held responsible for the KKK. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #5
All white people are responsible for the bombing of the NAACP office in Colorado KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #14
Fox News must be held responsible for 2 illegal wars. marmar Jan 2015 #6
Yes, Rupert. christx30 Jan 2015 #7
The war on freedom brought to you by the western MSM press jakeXT Jan 2015 #9
Strikingly familiar to those who blame all Jews for anything Israel does. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #10
That's how racists react as well - the "whole commumnity" is responsible for the individual BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #11
So I guess Murdoch is in the same class as these terrorist assholes: blackspade Jan 2015 #12
It's like John Fugelsang said 47of74 Jan 2015 #37
Rupert is a vile creature. What he is suggesting is itself a criminal idea Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #13
I do, however, blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #15
WOW, look in the mirror you asshole Iliyah Jan 2015 #16
Mr. Murdock HoosierCowboy Jan 2015 #17
Is he going to jump to the front of line Cryptoad Jan 2015 #18
I have a better idea Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #19
Rupert Murdoch War Horse Jan 2015 #20
All Gun Enthusiasts are to blame for crimes involving gun usage. Paladin Jan 2015 #22
Expect all the Fox propaganda outlets to begin pushing this insanity. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #23
All Americans are GUILTY OF TORTURE because we VOTED REPUBLICANS into office. vkkv Jan 2015 #24
Murdoch is doing his job continuing the terrorist's work. jeff47 Jan 2015 #31
many here agree with Murdoch uhnope Jan 2015 #33
Reading between the lines, the PTB want the Sunni muslim countries CJCRANE Jan 2015 #34
It should be clear Wahhabi sect followers of Sunni Islam JonLP24 Jan 2015 #47
By Murdoch's diseased logic... gregcrawford Jan 2015 #35
Wait a minute, Rupy, how about the Christians for Oklahoma City Bombing? Or Cops killing Innocents? drynberg Jan 2015 #36
Cancer? He ought to look in the fucking mirror first. 47of74 Jan 2015 #38
Murdoch should be held to account for the war in Iraq and for the cancer that is News Corp.... xocet Jan 2015 #39
Murdoch: "Religious freedom for Christians, but everyone else had to be held to a higher standard" davidpdx Jan 2015 #40
he should begin by talking to his middle eastern investors samsingh Jan 2015 #41
fuck you, Murdoch Skittles Jan 2015 #42
By his reasoning, Christians should be held responsible for the Oklahoma bombing sakabatou Jan 2015 #43
Rightwing hack says what??? blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #45
United States is more responsible for the "growing jihadist cancer" than most muslims JonLP24 Jan 2015 #46

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. In France the people know how the patriot act started RW "perveted values"
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jan 2015

press like hacker-newsMurdock- warped America pushing that "fear of the next thing". Who the heck wants Americans to live in a state of tabloid fear?- republicans!

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
25. murdoch and fux news must be held accountable for
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:20 PM
Jan 2015

everything going in right now because they caused the Iraq War to happen and they must be punished. So say me. All the cults that have arisen out there to kill people including ISIS are the result of abu ghuraib

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. they will never be held acountable. Couldn't even get enough sigs on the white house petition
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jan 2015

to ask the 'question' "Can our Gov bring Bush and Cheney to the Federal Courts?" and get a written answer from the White House. only 2,500 people signed.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
29. many here agree with Murdoch
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jan 2015

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026064113#post5

In fact, 100% of a DU jury thought that slamming the entire religion of Islam over sectarian warfare in Nigeria--between Muslims--is perfectly fine: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026064113#post20

Response to uhnope (Reply #29)

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The hacker of dead children's cell phones say what?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jan 2015

The "all 1.6 billion Muslims must tweet me their condemnation or they are all guilty".

Fucking Murdock has done more damage to western democracy than ISIS and AQ x1000.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. Not only that, Murdocks main go to for hacking lived in florida when that state gave bush the electi
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jan 2015

election.

The RW extremists along with their 'media' have been draining America dry for decades.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
4. Turborama
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jan 2015

Turborama

I do not believe every muslims in France should be held responsible for what some did in Islams name - I do believe the guilty ones should be convicted of a crime if possible - and in this case I doubt much can be doing - all the time they are dead - and can not end up in a court or to be convicted to a lengthy prison time...

And it is also against international Law - who strictly forbid the use of collective punishment against nations, or group of people - even if the Geneva conventions of 1949 is starting to be old - it is still international LAW - and every who have written under the Geneva-Conventions is bound by the law....

Diclotican

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
14. All white people are responsible for the bombing of the NAACP office in Colorado
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jan 2015

and must take steps to denounce the racist(s) in their midst and eradicate the cancer of white supremacy.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
7. Yes, Rupert.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:26 AM
Jan 2015

And all Christians should be held responsible for the KKKK.
All Irish Catholics should be held responsible for the IRA.
All US Christians should be held responsible for abortion clinic bombings.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
10. Strikingly familiar to those who blame all Jews for anything Israel does.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jan 2015

And just as bigoted and ignorant.

BumRushDaShow

(129,064 posts)
11. That's how racists react as well - the "whole commumnity" is responsible for the individual
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jan 2015

who commits a crime... unless they are wealthy white Christian landowners (or their progeny), where the individual is then considered a "lone wolf", with no further "taint" to "the community" being warranted.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
12. So I guess Murdoch is in the same class as these terrorist assholes:
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jan 2015

Russian Orthodox Activists Say Charlie Hebdo Shooting Was 'Just Punishment'

Read more: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-orthodox-activists-say-charlie-hebdo-shooting-was-just-punishment/514157.html

Catholic League President Attacks Murdered Cartoonists

http://www.catholicleague.org/muslims-right-angry/

American Family Association "Charlie Hebdo Attack Was God's Punishment For Magazine's Blasphemy"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten....FQLst5Z1.dpuf

They are all just different nuts out of the same bag of fundamentalist trail mix.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Rupert is a vile creature. What he is suggesting is itself a criminal idea
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jan 2015

Collective punishment accorded to a group of people for crimes committed by members of that group is an crime. Fuck Rupert.
Oh, and Australia, please know we do not collectively blame you for Murdoch.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. I do, however, blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jan 2015

aboriginal peoples there. Not really, but I'm just channeling my inner Murdoch.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. Is he going to jump to the front of line
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jan 2015

of those awaiting justice to be doled out for all the crimes committed in the name of Christ?

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. I have a better idea
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jan 2015

Most Rupert Murdochs must be held responsible for the lies most FoxNews personalities tell on his cable propaganda channel.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
24. All Americans are GUILTY OF TORTURE because we VOTED REPUBLICANS into office.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jan 2015

- Or because we let Republicans STEAL an election.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
31. Murdoch is doing his job continuing the terrorist's work.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jan 2015

Terrorism isn't about religion. It's about power. It's hard to find recruits to sign up for a violent life giving power to sociopaths.

In order to solve this problem, you create an environment where it's easier to recruit. A backlash against Muslims in France could turn them into a despised and oppressed underclass. Which would make it a lot easier to recruit more jihadists, giving the leaders more power. Those new recruits could then carry out more attacks, creating more of a backlash, leading to more repression and even more recruits and power.

That's why the 9/11 attacks were carried out. To get the backlash against all Muslims that has brought much more power to terrorist groups. And the side benefit of knocking off a few competitors via invasions.

Murdoch is doing his part to bring this plan to fruition.

Religion is just the tool being used to manipulate people. The goal is power. The terrorists are smart enough to use it, and Murdoch is dumb enough to fall for it.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
33. many here agree with Murdoch
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jan 2015

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026064113#post5

In fact, 100% of a DU jury thought that slamming the entire religion of Islam over sectarian warfare in Nigeria--between Muslims--is perfectly fine: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026064113#post20

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
34. Reading between the lines, the PTB want the Sunni muslim countries
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jan 2015

(which coincidentally happen to be our allies) to step up to the plate and take over the ISIS areas in Syria and Iraq. I heard a pundit say: "It's a Sunni muslim problem, therefore there must be a Sunni solution".

Or to paraphrase it my way: "The answer to a bad muslim with a gun (in Syria), is a good muslim with a gun".

Watch for the recruitment of rebels to be stepped up.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
47. It should be clear Wahhabi sect followers of Sunni Islam
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:10 AM
Jan 2015
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-sunni-and-wahabi/

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAB, Qatar are state sponsors of Wahabbism.

Its kinda interesting what started as a terrible Iraqi prime minister problem became a Sunni problem. The one thing ISIS offers is protection from Shia militias and damn US is fucking things up again --

Iran-Backed Militias Are Getting U.S. Weapons
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-08/iranbacked-militias-are-getting-us-weapons-in-iraq

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
35. By Murdoch's diseased logic...
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jan 2015

... all Christians should be held responsible for the murder of Dr. Tiller, and all the other physicians murdered for performing a legal medical procedure. Murdoch is a gangrenous pustule whose continued existence is an affront to humanity.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
36. Wait a minute, Rupy, how about the Christians for Oklahoma City Bombing? Or Cops killing Innocents?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jan 2015

You know I could go on and on...point is, Rupy, you ain't got no logic, no, just greed and hate...nice.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
42. fuck you, Murdoch
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:12 PM
Jan 2015

YOU should be held responsible for the repuke propaganda that has been inflicted on America for FAR TOO LONG

sakabatou

(42,152 posts)
43. By his reasoning, Christians should be held responsible for the Oklahoma bombing
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:43 PM
Jan 2015

several school shootings and other heinous crimes.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
46. United States is more responsible for the "growing jihadist cancer" than most muslims
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 06:03 AM
Jan 2015

Oil embargo and the energy crises

In November 1964, Faisal became the new king after the conflicts he had with his brother Saud, the erstwhile king. The U.S, on the other hand was not sure about the outcome of such unplanned change in the Saudi monarchy. King Faisal was cooperating neatly with the U.S. until October 20, 1973; it was the relationship's largest obstacle before 9/11. King Faisal had decided to contribute in an oil embargo against the United States and Europe in favor of the Arab position in the Yom Kippur War causing an energy crisis in the U.S. "America's complete Israel support against the Arabs makes it extremely difficult for us to continue to supply the United States with oil, or even remain friends with the United States" King Faisal in an interview with international media.

Despite the tensions caused by the oil embargo, the U.S. wished to resume relations with the Saudis. Indeed, the great oil wealth accumulated as a result of price increases allowed the Saudis to purchase large sums of American military technology. The embargo was lifted in March 1974 after the U.S. pressured Israel into negotiating with Syria over the Golan Heights. Three months later, "Washington and Riyadh signed a wide-ranging agreement on expanded economic and military cooperation." In the 1975 fiscal year, the two countries signed $2 billion worth of military contracts, including an agreement to send Saudi Arabia 60 fighter jets.[14] The Saudis also argued (partially on behalf of American desires) to keep OPEC price increases in the mid-1970s lower than Iraq and Iran initially wanted.[12] As part of the "twin pillars" strategy, the U.S. also attempted to improve relations between the Saudis and the Iranians, such as by persuading Iran to remove its territorial claim to Bahrain.[15]

The Saudis' increase of oil production to stabilize the oil price and the support of anti-communism have all contributed to closer relations with the U.S.[11] In January 1979, the U.S. sent F-15 fighters to Saudi Arabia for further protection from communism.[11] Furthermore, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia were both supporting anti-communist groups in Afghanistan and struggling countries, the groups later became known as Al-Qaida terrorist organization.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia%E2%80%93United_States_relations

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Rupert Murdoch: Muslims m...