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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:22 PM Jan 2015

Catholic League President Attacks Murdered Cartoonists: Charlie Hebdo ‘Perverts Freedom’

Source: Think Progress

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While journalists and free speech advocates across the country rally in support of free press following the murder of twelve French journalists at Charlie Hebdo this week, the leader of a U.S. Catholic group is blaming the satirical newspaper’s staff for “the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.”

In a blog post Wednesday and then a follow-up post Thursday, Catholic League President Bill Donohue said the cartoonists’ “obscene portrayal of religious figures” represents an “abuse of freedom” — missing the fact that the First Amendment to the Constitution in the U.S and a similar law in France both guarantee freedom of speech and of the press.

“Freedom of speech is not an end—it is a means to an end,” Donohue wrote on the Catholic League website. “For Americans, the end is nicely spelled out in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution… No fair-minded reading of the Preamble suggests that it was written to facilitate the right to intentionally and persistently insult people of faith with scatological commentary.”

Donohue also specifically singles out the paper’s publisher Stephane Charbonnier, who was killed by the two shooters on Wednesday. “It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death,” Donohue said.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609637/donohue-charlie-hebdo/



The one-man, hackneyed Catholic League, who gets the vapors every time David Bowie or a musician pokes fun of Catholicism or people accurately point out the sex abuse scandals of the church, but gives his friend Rush Limbaugh a pass and defends him for calling Pope Francis a communist.

Naturally, Bill would side with the rightwing fundie murderers. Thank God the church is taking steps to move away from his conservative ilk under the current pope.
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Catholic League President Attacks Murdered Cartoonists: Charlie Hebdo ‘Perverts Freedom’ (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2015 OP
Judaism, Christianity and Islam CJCRANE Jan 2015 #1
Good thing the Sexually abused aren't Provoked warrant46 Jan 2015 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jan 2015 #61
Name-calling vs. Murder. Jeepers, they balance themselves out, don't they? valerief Jan 2015 #2
"provoked this violent reaction" Laf.La.Dem. Jan 2015 #3
The religion folks making rationalizations for JDDavis Jan 2015 #6
I think this guy has proven time and again to be a intolerant nutjob. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #20
I understand your position, and respect it. JDDavis Jan 2015 #21
Yes, it's crazy, but it's reality - hopefully not forever... Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #22
"hard to believe that just a few insulting cartoons...could make religious nut-jobs want to murder" FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #42
Yes, I kind of agree JDDavis Jan 2015 #43
There could well be a genetic component to this considering our closest cousins... FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #44
I am sure that there are 1000 "genetic components" which JDDavis Jan 2015 #46
Jay Carney stated it more eloquently in 2012 marshall Jan 2015 #25
Really? Roy Rolling Jan 2015 #4
Except that Christian doctrine assumes that Jesus knew exactly what role he played FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #45
This lifelong Catholic DISAVOWS such crap. calimary Jan 2015 #5
as you say, this guy is a lone asshole--his organization has nothing to do with the Catholic Church uhnope Jan 2015 #7
It does, actually nichomachus Jan 2015 #41
No MFrohike Jan 2015 #72
They could threaten him with excommunication nichomachus Jan 2015 #73
No they can't MFrohike Jan 2015 #75
indeed. MBS Jan 2015 #50
Bill Je Suis Connard Donohue irisblue Jan 2015 #8
Defrocked turbinetree Jan 2015 #9
he's not a priest TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #15
EXACTLY.Thanks. n/t MBS Jan 2015 #48
Donohue is an attention whore C_U_L8R Jan 2015 #10
I'm so happy now that Dish Network has removed Faux News from my TeeVee! icymist Jan 2015 #11
I wish they would remove republican-fox from my 'free TV', at least I can avoid the fox channels! Sunlei Jan 2015 #36
And what about Donohue's intentional and persistent insults against gay men and women? NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #12
The humor he derides as "an end" christx30 Jan 2015 #13
Religion is the oldest, most profitable marketing scam on the planet. vkkv Jan 2015 #14
"Religion began when the first con man hifiguy Jan 2015 #27
but not if you are a fertile ovulating female. Please! ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2015 #39
This same guy blames the victims of molesting priests... Archae Jan 2015 #16
This life-long Catholic has despised Donohue for years Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #17
Ok JackInGreen Jan 2015 #18
Fuck you dead, Bill Donohue. (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #19
TA GUEULE SALE PETITE MERDE. mylye2222 Jan 2015 #23
Proving, once more, that only RELIGIONS are allowed to screw with you head! Johnny Rash Jan 2015 #24
A religious fanatic defending other religious fanatics CanonRay Jan 2015 #26
Turds, err, Birds of a feather. hifiguy Jan 2015 #28
Would that be JackInGreen Jan 2015 #68
Not one post in this thread deals with the moral issue. candelista Jan 2015 #29
Just what is "the moral issue" that is not dealt with? JDDavis Jan 2015 #31
Figure it out for yourself. candelista Jan 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author JDDavis Jan 2015 #35
You must mean the moral issue of "don't murder people" MNBrewer Jan 2015 #62
Nope. candelista Jan 2015 #63
Trlalala MNBrewer Jan 2015 #65
The Catholic League is as fundamentalist as al Qaeda. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2015 #30
republican fox & their (R)adical (R)eligious have always hated any humor/satire about them. Sunlei Jan 2015 #32
Has anyone seen posts expressing a similar POV here? oberliner Jan 2015 #34
I am trying to figure out where Bill Donohue thinks the preamble says what he says it says. Gore1FL Jan 2015 #37
Don't we all know that freedom should only be used christx30 Jan 2015 #38
People attacking cartoonists are busy getting their heads blown off. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #40
Glad I'm not a Catholic anymore Joey Liberal Jan 2015 #47
Oh, I'm sorry... bobclark86 Jan 2015 #49
and Speaking of Perverts.. misterhighwasted Jan 2015 #51
This shit only increases my loathing for fundementalists blackspade Jan 2015 #52
It always has been. Its just that there are more of them now hifiguy Jan 2015 #70
Exactly sir, exactly blackspade Jan 2015 #77
He should know from "perverts" nt LiberalElite Jan 2015 #53
The Catholic Church has sued Charlie Hebdo 14 times in recent years. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #54
Associate Justice to the Supreme Court Antonin Scalia would disagree rpannier Jan 2015 #55
For people like Bill the First Amendment is a doorstop for the Second. BruceStern Jan 2015 #56
I don't understand where this person comes from. cab67 Jan 2015 #57
I think for reich wing Catholics 47of74 Jan 2015 #71
Another DUer posted this from the perspective of agreement with Donohue Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #58
I've Heard Donohue still lives in a room in his mothers basement Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #60
Well, of course he has it arse-backwards. Freedom of speech IS THE END, PERIOD, not "a means to an WinkyDink Jan 2015 #64
What a fuckhead Burf-_- Jan 2015 #66
What a bloated sack of hot air DFW Jan 2015 #67
Another self proclaimed Bartlet Jan 2015 #69
FWIW, Looks like the Pope disagrees... DonViejo Jan 2015 #74
I wish he had been a character in Fargo... randys1 Jan 2015 #76
Sad, but predictable. I'd respect him more had he said Sparky 1 Jan 2015 #78

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Judaism, Christianity and Islam
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jan 2015

share many of the same prophets.

Defame Moses or Abraham, for example, and you get a threefer.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
59. Good thing the Sexually abused aren't Provoked
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jan 2015

Into "getting even" against the monsters who run this Criminal Organization

Response to warrant46 (Reply #59)

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
6. The religion folks making rationalizations for
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jan 2015

other religious folks killing innocent cartoonists and police?

Now I know most religion is totally irrational and self-serving.

Seeking "special pleadings", criticize anything else, from Obama to Sarah Palin, fine, but to criticize a religion? Nasty! Don't criticize or make fun of people's freedom to believe in ancient fairy tales. They "had it coming", for being nasty about someone's religion, I guess.

Rationalizing mass murder, that's what this Catholic leader is doing. Make a note of it. Remember it if he should ever open his mouth again about abortion, gay rights, whatever. This is the voice of a man who just rationalized mass murder.



 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
20. I think this guy has proven time and again to be a intolerant nutjob.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jan 2015

But it's an interesting question people should probably be asking themselves - Is what I'm doing really worth kicking a hornets nest?

I try to stay clear of people that are FN crazy. To basically call them out is tantamount to declaring jihad on their religion. And call me a coward, or weak-kneed, but I am very good at self-survival brought about from knowing where the hornets nests are and avoiding them like the plague.

While the magazine people (victims) should not be blamed in this, they were aware of the possibility of something like this happening as we've seen it before. So while I don't blame them, and 100% blame the murderers, I can't help but feel that being respectful of others could have avoided this outcome.

Flame me if you want, but I'm just expressing my thought process. If you don't agree, please do so without insults.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
21. I understand your position, and respect it.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jan 2015

No one wants to willingly put themselves in jeopardy of losing one's life.

However, it's hard to believe that just a few insulting cartoons in a small publication with 60,000 circulation in France could make religious nut-jobs want to murder. But this is the world we live in now.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
42. "hard to believe that just a few insulting cartoons...could make religious nut-jobs want to murder"
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jan 2015

I think the nut-jobs want to murder already and are just looking for an excuse.

They're trying to impress their sky-daddy:

"See god? I hate the awful sinners as much as you. And did you hear what they SAID about you??!?!!? Well, I took care of that! Did you a solid. Love me?"

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
43. Yes, I kind of agree
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:37 PM
Jan 2015

Some people kill for no reason. Some people have 1000 reasons, including their god.

I am more and more convinced that people are pre-disposed to violence and murder and killing, just as they are pre-disposed to Cancer, and other people live into their 90's as smokers and never get Cancer.

I lost a cousin at 11 and a half years old to Cancer. I am over 60 now, and my parents both never got Cancer before they died of old age. My cousin's parents both died of Cancer not too many years after their daughter died at 11.

How do people get afflicted with a desire to kill just like some people get afflicted with Cancer or some other disease at any early age? I wonder what we can actually do about violence sometimes, thinking it's like a Cancer of the mind on our evolutionary stage a few of us get afflicted with it, and kill a dozen Parisians or 2900+ in the USA in 2001. Same disease.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
44. There could well be a genetic component to this considering our closest cousins...
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jan 2015
Murder 'comes naturally' to chimpanzees
18 September 2014

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29237276
 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
46. I am sure that there are 1000 "genetic components" which
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jan 2015

have a way of 20 or 30 components of coming together to:

1) produce LGBT people

2) produce people who die of Cancer at a very early age

3) produce people of incredible genius

4) produce people who commit suicide

5) Become serial murderers, rapists, etc. etc. etc.

6) I doubt that there's much really we can do to most people born, sometimes, and at other times, I think I really changed someone's life by my teaching and counseling them.

I just don't know

marshall

(6,665 posts)
25. Jay Carney stated it more eloquently in 2012
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

It sounds crazy when this guy says it because he is bringing in his own intolerance, but Carney was able to say essentially the same thing without being offensive.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
4. Really?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jan 2015

So when someone murders a Catholic he'll say "they should have understood the role they played in their own murder".

If he was alive in year 33 a.d. I'm sure he would have said of Jesus's death: "he didn't understand the role he played in his tragic death."

No wonder organized religion is on the decline, morons like this make it like the blind leading the blind.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
45. Except that Christian doctrine assumes that Jesus knew exactly what role he played
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jan 2015

They claim that God set the whole thing up so that his ritual suicide-by-empire would let us off the hook.

(But only if we believe it ... in exactly the right way ...)

calimary

(81,285 posts)
5. This lifelong Catholic DISAVOWS such crap.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jan 2015

That old crank is just irrelevant. I totally stand by this statement of yours, Adenoid_:

"Thank God the church is taking steps to move away from his conservative ilk under the current pope."

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
41. It does, actually
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

He is the perfect frontman for the fascist bishops. He comes out and says all the things that they would like to say, but couldn't without some kind of retribution. Notice that they haven't disavowed him. Not only that, not that he's in the Rolodex, the networks trot him out as some kind of official spokesman for the church.

So it's win-win for the bishops. They get to get their message of hate on the air under the guise of authenticity and they don't have to be held accountable for it.

It's brilliant.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
72. No
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:20 PM
Jan 2015

The US Conference of Bishops has taken pains in the past to specifically point out that Donohue and his dog-and-pony show do not represent the church in any size, shape, or fashion. There's plenty of legitimate criticisms to be made against the USCCB, but this just ain't one of them.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
73. They could threaten him with excommunication
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jan 2015

As they do pro-life politicians -- but they don't. They like what he says and they can claim he doesn't speak for them, but as long as the message gets out, they're happy. Win-win.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
75. No they can't
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jan 2015

He hasn't done anything that would justify it. There's a clear line between claiming everything he doesn't like is anti-Catholic and actually claiming to speak for the church. If he ever goes over that line, it would be justified. Until then, or he decides to consecrate his own priests or something, he's just a loudmouth asshole making everyone else look bad. If that were the standard for excommunication, the church would be running out of bishops.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
50. indeed.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jan 2015

His claim to speak for all Catholics -- and the lazy media buying his bogus claim, and twisted message-- makes me insane.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
9. Defrocked
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jan 2015

This right wing hypocrite has no concept to what free speech is about, and to cast dispersion on someone that was and used his or her free speech rights and is dead for being satirical against the powers in charge just shows the hypocrisy that this so called priest enjoys on Fix Noise.
He should be defrocked.
He then can get a job on Fix Noise and sit right along with whomever is on the big white couch spreading more fear and hate.
That he goes on an empire /oligarchy, that is nothing more than a propaganda format for more hate and fear---go figure, look at what this empire of evil really does, people are really getting tired of this stuff coming out these hypocrites mouths.
Maybe this twit should read his churches history and go back to the Spanish Inquisition under the leadership of the Roman Catholic church (you know the state within in a state called the Roman Empire that is still in existence from by gone days in Italy, they condoned crucifixions as a form of law ) torturing another human for being a non-Catholic.
At least the current pontiff has a lot of common sense to realize that he is the brother and sister keeper and not this hypocrite.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
15. he's not a priest
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jan 2015

The Catholic League isn't part of the Catholic Church and never was. Originally it was founded to protect Catholics from discrimination and promoted free speech and civil rights. Under this nut as president it became something entirely different and not in a good way.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. I wish they would remove republican-fox from my 'free TV', at least I can avoid the fox channels!
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jan 2015

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
12. And what about Donohue's intentional and persistent insults against gay men and women?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jan 2015

If terrorists attack Catholic churches, or Catholic League employees, then using his logic it would be the church's own fault.

Apparently for him, it's only a "abuse" of free speech if it involves criticizing religion or his church. Spewing hateful invective day after day against gays is A-OK by him.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. The humor he derides as "an end"
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jan 2015

is actually a means to an end. It shows that not everyone holds his views with reverence. The scatalogical humor he hates is meant to show him and his ilk that there are people out here that reject him and his desire for control of our lives. If I could cover him in bovine excrement, I would do so to show that he is full of BS.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
14. Religion is the oldest, most profitable marketing scam on the planet.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jan 2015


What they do is, sell a product, salvation, which costs absolutely nothing to make and sell it to gullible people looking for answers that science can't entirely explain. Religious organizations have grown and profited through history by assimilating many cultures and traditions to spread it's viral poison of guilt, shame, selfishness and eternal life in Heaven, Garden Of The Gods, or Valhalla, or Elysian Fields, or The Cedar Forest or the Happy Hunting Ground, or, Stovokor...

Martin Luther formed a new church because the Pope was corruptly selling slices of Heaven known as "indulgences". The Pope was on the take from both poor and wealthy supporters.

Heaven? Now that is one big, eternal entitlement!

If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash in bowl.

If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash in bowl.

If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash...
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
27. "Religion began when the first con man
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:42 PM
Jan 2015

met the first fool." attributed to Mark Twain and as true as can be.

Fuck Donohue and fuck those murderous, deluded assholes in Paris. Fundy religion is the most dangerous thing on the planet.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
17. This life-long Catholic has despised Donohue for years
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jan 2015

The statement attributed to Voltaire, "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is entirely foreign to him.

There are those who say that the "Catholic League" consists solely of Bill Donohue and a mimeograph machine. I do not consider Bill Donohue a spokesman for anyone except himself, and I have told him so to his face. Donohue speaks for a small coterie of conservative Catholics, and no one else.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
31. Just what is "the moral issue" that is not dealt with?
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jan 2015

Catholic morality?

Seems pretty clear to me that when some religious nut rationalizes mass murder there's a "moral issue" screwed up in his brain.

Response to candelista (Reply #33)

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
63. Nope.
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jan 2015

That's not an issue. See if you can find a controversial moral problem in this discussion. I know you can do it!

DinahMoeHum

(21,791 posts)
30. The Catholic League is as fundamentalist as al Qaeda. . .
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jan 2015

. . .and fundamentalists of ANY stripe have no sense of humor.

If your G@d can't stand laughter or satire, it's a fake faith.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. republican fox & their (R)adical (R)eligious have always hated any humor/satire about them.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jan 2015

RW will never get used to it

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. Has anyone seen posts expressing a similar POV here?
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jan 2015

Specifically this:

In a blog post Wednesday and then a follow-up post Thursday, Catholic League President Bill Donohue said the cartoonists’ “obscene portrayal of religious figures” represents an “abuse of freedom” — missing the fact that the First Amendment to the Constitution in the U.S and a similar law in France both guarantee freedom of speech and of the press.

“Freedom of speech is not an end—it is a means to an end,” Donohue wrote on the Catholic League website. “For Americans, the end is nicely spelled out in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution… No fair-minded reading of the Preamble suggests that it was written to facilitate the right to intentionally and persistently insult people of faith with scatological commentary.”

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
37. I am trying to figure out where Bill Donohue thinks the preamble says what he says it says.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 02:25 PM
Jan 2015

I think he is much more mis-infomred than I originally thought.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
38. Don't we all know that freedom should only be used
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jan 2015

to become Catholic, deny women healthcare decisions, and persecute gays? Anything else is a bad use for freedom.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
52. This shit only increases my loathing for fundementalists
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:39 PM
Jan 2015

Religion has become a haven for the mentally unhinged and fearful.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
70. It always has been. Its just that there are more of them now
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jan 2015

and they are even crazier. Religulous fundamentalism of all kinds is the single greatest threat to the long-ter survival of the species. Humanity must outgrow its addiction to believing in Iron Age fairy tales to survive and progress.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
55. Associate Justice to the Supreme Court Antonin Scalia would disagree
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jan 2015

And he did, when he sided with Penthouse magazine over the Rev Jerry Falwell

cab67

(2,993 posts)
57. I don't understand where this person comes from.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 05:04 AM
Jan 2015

Really. I'm basically agnostic, but grew up Catholic and was very serious about it for many years. I never encountered someone like Bill Donoghue. I was decidedly from the left wing of the church, and my fondest memories come from college campus Catholic centers where my particular outlook was predominant, but even the most rabid right-wing Catholics I knew were more rational than Donoghue. They at least knew the difference between a fallible flesh-and-blood priest and a deity, and they understood that the days of burning heretics and forcing the church on other people were long over.

(I should stipulate that most of the practicing Catholics I knew were from the US, Canada, and UK. Levels of stridency seem to be higher in other countries, especially those where Catholicism was the state religion for centuries and the Reformation never really took root. Still, Donoghue seems extreme even for them.)

Why do the media give him any sort of attention?

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
71. I think for reich wing Catholics
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:17 PM
Jan 2015

I think for reich wing Catholics the church is not so much an institution dedicated to caring for the least of us, encouraging people to strive to be better, and trying to answer the fundamental questions about our human existence.

For them it's more about power and control, keeping those they see as less then they are down and under control. It's why they have such hang ups about women and sex. It's why they got stupid after President Obama was elected.

In 2012 when the Catholic leadership decided to turn the church into a Republican campaign organization I said enough and swam the Thames over the Episcopal church. Even though Francis is 100x the Pope that Benedict XVI was I will never go back to the Roman church. I don't care if it costs me every friend I have either.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
58. Another DUer posted this from the perspective of agreement with Donohue
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jan 2015

And along with a few others on DU, certainly echos the rhetoric put forth by Donohue. The religious extremists of the world stick together.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
64. Well, of course he has it arse-backwards. Freedom of speech IS THE END, PERIOD, not "a means to an
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jan 2015

end."

I hate Right-Wing Catholics!!

(I'm a liberal RC!)

 

Burf-_-

(205 posts)
66. What a fuckhead
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 01:04 AM
Jan 2015

It's unfathomable the depths that religious fanatics will sink to. Hebdo attackers being defended by a catholic zealot...what kind of drugs is this man snorting ?

DFW

(54,393 posts)
67. What a bloated sack of hot air
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jan 2015

When he can point out how many satirical cartoonists have walked into a mosque (or a church, for that matter) and killed twelve religious leaders, THEN I'll consider paying attention to what he says, and it'll have to be on some venue other than Fox Noise.

Bartlet

(172 posts)
69. Another self proclaimed
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jan 2015

"Constitutional scholar" with zero understanding of the constitution. No one needs any right to protect comfortable speech, no one needs the Government to protect them from being nice. The 1st amendment is there to protect unpleasant speech, to protect those people saying things that many may find objectionable. This useless clown only wants speech that he does not find objectionable protected, namely his own ignorant infantile drivel.

Sparky 1

(400 posts)
78. Sad, but predictable. I'd respect him more had he said
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:27 AM
Jan 2015

. . . that everyone needs to have more compassion for others. And left it at that.

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