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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 04:46 PM Jan 2015

New Video Of Tamir Rice Shooting Shows Police Arresting Sister, Delaying First Aid

Source: Huffington Post

Previously unreleased surveillance footage surrounding the police shooting of a boy in Cleveland shows authorities forcing the young victim's 14-year-old sister to the ground, handcuffing her and putting her in a patrol car.

The video, obtained by Cleveland.com and released on Wednesday, also indicates that Cleveland Police waited four minutes before administering first aid to the dying 12-year-old boy, Tamir Rice.

WARNING: The video above contains content unsuitable for some audiences.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/08/new-video-tamir-rice_n_6436040.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000021




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New Video Of Tamir Rice Shooting Shows Police Arresting Sister, Delaying First Aid (Original Post) laserhaas Jan 2015 OP
Murderers!nt bravenak Jan 2015 #1
Did you see the Discussion thread about Cleveland manager who resigned laserhaas Jan 2015 #2
I saw that. bravenak Jan 2015 #3
I cant watch this video, I hate cops enough as it is randys1 Jan 2015 #26
I watched a little bit. bravenak Jan 2015 #27
It better god damn stop and it better stop soon, or else. randys1 Jan 2015 #28
For real. I'm getting pissed! bravenak Jan 2015 #29
:) - nothing more relevant, than a righteously pee'd of liberal laserhaas Jan 2015 #31
Me too. I have been crying so much this last year, it's crazy. bravenak Jan 2015 #32
Ha Ha -- Game of thrones tears...... laserhaas Jan 2015 #36
Taken 3? bravenak Jan 2015 #37
Yup--- Dbl feature night laserhaas Jan 2015 #38
Awesome!! bravenak Jan 2015 #40
Ha... It's 2 Wendy's sandwichs and a Coke laserhaas Jan 2015 #41
That is cold blooded murder BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #10
What would they have done - if it were the mother rushing to her dying son! laserhaas Jan 2015 #12
It's so cruel, it's beyond words BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #14
Their obvious excuse was - (as it should have been concerning Tamir) laserhaas Jan 2015 #19
Yes, they should. bravenak Jan 2015 #25
The cops wander around for over a minute, never touching Tamir except once with foot, then sister uppityperson Jan 2015 #4
It is inhuman - morose - behavior laserhaas Jan 2015 #5
"forcing her to the ground"? It looked more like they body slammed her. Arkansas Granny Jan 2015 #6
It is like "look, we've already shot him - he's going to die - you can't touch the scene" laserhaas Jan 2015 #8
That mindset is easy when the lives of black folks don't matter... Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #13
And that's the mindset which vexes me most. Like a med student dissecting a frog laserhaas Jan 2015 #17
They say its a protocol to stop lawsuits from happening. Why not just shoot him again laserhaas Jan 2015 #7
The comments that I've seen on Youtube and other sites that claim that the video supports Chakab Jan 2015 #9
What amazes me about this and Mike Brown's affair laserhaas Jan 2015 #11
Violation of common sense also applies to the cop who shot John Crawford. Chakab Jan 2015 #15
You are correct. - The moronic perpetrator thirsting for melodrama laserhaas Jan 2015 #18
YouTube comments are second only to YahooNews comments in their vile RWness. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #45
They left that little boy to die. KeepItReal Jan 2015 #16
I guess we're lucky they didn't shoot her too. laserhaas Jan 2015 #20
Ask the cop how the perp got so close to the cruiser? How many times did you warn him? KeepItReal Jan 2015 #24
Without accountability The Wizard Jan 2015 #21
Question. How wil the politicians and the system react to this video? Stuart G Jan 2015 #22
They LET him fucking die!? blackspade Jan 2015 #23
Thats right folks. workinclasszero Jan 2015 #30
Only a real cop, a passerby FBI Agent, rendered aid to the child KeepItReal Jan 2015 #34
Me too! laserhaas Jan 2015 #35
Complete disregard for human lives mcar Jan 2015 #33
The problem is - we turn our backs too often. laserhaas Jan 2015 #39
Surveillance cameras Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #42
I challenge anyone to watch this video and not feel infuriated Hutzpa Jan 2015 #43
Horrible n/t Non-Automatic_Belief Jan 2015 #44
I wasn't too sure what to think of this story until I saw video PersonNumber503602 Jan 2015 #46
k and r..no text...speaks more than can be imagined... Stuart G Jan 2015 #47
We can't let this keep happening. Madmiddle Jan 2015 #48
So the cops lied, and they murdered in cold blood once again. Trillo Jan 2015 #49
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
2. Did you see the Discussion thread about Cleveland manager who resigned
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jan 2015

This stuff is infuriating.

Wonderful to see people do the right thing;
and pray the wrongs are held accountable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026056729

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
31. :) - nothing more relevant, than a righteously pee'd of liberal
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jan 2015

I'm a grown man who weeps more in the last few years

than most of my entire life!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
32. Me too. I have been crying so much this last year, it's crazy.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jan 2015

You should have seen me watching the last two seasons of Game of Thrones.
Oberyn!!!!!!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
36. Ha Ha -- Game of thrones tears......
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:10 PM
Jan 2015

I'm a sap too - for good movie thingys.

Watched Imitation and Dr. Hawking's movies the last 2 days.


Glad to be able to get back to Taken and stuff this weekend...

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
40. Awesome!!
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jan 2015

I'm going to try to get to both soon, too. Have a great movie night. If you go to the theater, wear cargo pants and stuff yr candy in the pockets.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. That is cold blooded murder
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jan 2015

And then denying aide to the victim, both of these officers should be charged.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
12. What would they have done - if it were the mother rushing to her dying son!
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jan 2015

Think of this being one of your family!

Shheeesssshhhh!

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. It's so cruel, it's beyond words
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jan 2015

Why did the girl need to be handcuffed? Why was she put in the car? What on earth can we do to make sure this never happens again??

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
19. Their obvious excuse was - (as it should have been concerning Tamir)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:58 PM
Jan 2015

that they are to mitigate dynamics.

But it's all B.S.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. The cops wander around for over a minute, never touching Tamir except once with foot, then sister
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 04:57 PM
Jan 2015

comes running and they shove her down, then couple minutes to shove her into back of cop car. No one touches or even bends down to check Tamir until 4 minutes have passed and even then it is minimal. Incredible.

11 minutes and someone shows up with what looks like a first aid kit. Gurney shows up at 12 min. Wheeled off right before 14 min. I can't watch more.

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
6. "forcing her to the ground"? It looked more like they body slammed her.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jan 2015

Were they just waiting for Tamir to bleed out before they did anything?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
8. It is like "look, we've already shot him - he's going to die - you can't touch the scene"
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jan 2015

callous disregard for human life and feelings.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
17. And that's the mindset which vexes me most. Like a med student dissecting a frog
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jan 2015

and working their way up to a cadaver... Police shoot one here, then one there, choke one -- another dies in jail ---- Then it's open season and shoot anyone who dares to question.

I'm just sayin....

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
7. They say its a protocol to stop lawsuits from happening. Why not just shoot him again
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jan 2015

and make sure he's dead?

We can't touch him = because the family may sue U.S.

As if the original shooting is presumed as already getting Off 'Scot Free'.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
9. The comments that I've seen on Youtube and other sites that claim that the video supports
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jan 2015

the officers' version of events just boggle the mind.

First off, the video exposed several lies in the initial statement.

Secondly, it clearly shows that Rice was shot before the car even came to a stop.

This shows the deeply ingrained the racist/authoritarian mentally that leads people to justify any action on the part of the police. If person can look at that video and earnestly claim that the actions of the officers were justified, you can't even begin to have a debate.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
11. What amazes me about this and Mike Brown's affair
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

is the violation of common sense and protocols

You don't rush your vehicle into close proximity of an altercation.

ABSURD!

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
15. Violation of common sense also applies to the cop who shot John Crawford.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jan 2015

They were told that there was a possible active shooter who was brandishing a weapon. However, when they arrived on the scene it should have been clear that there was no panic in the store, there were no scared people huddling inside of the store or in the parking lot, and the "shooter" was talking on his cell phone and looking at items on a shelf while using the gun as crutch. In spite of all of this, the officer still shot Crawford on sight without even giving him a chance to show that he wasn't a threat.

...and I'm still at all loss to understand why no changes were filled against the prick who made the bogus 911 call in the first place.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
18. You are correct. - The moronic perpetrator thirsting for melodrama
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jan 2015

Who started the whole mess.

Took us a long time to ferret out the full video of the Fullerton Police beating to death of homeless man Kelly Thomas.

Cop got off, cause the charges were stupid
(can't charge murder when father has the plug pulled)

But the person who called in, from a restaurant, giving false statement that Thomas was breaking into cars (because they hate homeless people hanging out at the bus depot).

NEVER was charged!

Intolerable!

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
16. They left that little boy to die.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jan 2015

And have the nerve to tackle his sister, cuff her, and throw her in the squad car!?!?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
20. I guess we're lucky they didn't shoot her too.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:00 PM
Jan 2015

...

What would you do - if you interviewed this shooter - afterwards?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
24. Ask the cop how the perp got so close to the cruiser? How many times did you warn him?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jan 2015

An engagement that close to the cruiser cannot be standard operating procedure for an armed confrontation.

If it were really an active shooter, they would have driven into a hail of bullets.

Unless they were trying to overwhelm the perp, shock and awe style. Again - is that standard operating procedure?

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
22. Question. How wil the politicians and the system react to this video?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jan 2015

Will the Superintendent of Police get fired for poor training methods?
Will the cops immediate supervisors get fired for letting the boy lay for four minutes without aid?
Will the cops be fired for what they did in this video?..

Just asking..cause I do not know what the truth in this video will do..

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
23. They LET him fucking die!?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:30 PM
Jan 2015

Fucking asshole murderers.

I guess it's easier to explain it away if their victim is dead.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. Thats right folks.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jan 2015

They knocked his grief stricken sister to the ground and handcuffed her as her 12 year old brother lay bleeding to death just feet away

And those bastards did not lift a finger to help that poor kid as he lay dying with his toy gun.

NOTHING!

mcar

(42,334 posts)
33. Complete disregard for human lives
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jan 2015

I saw this on tonight's news. What those children experienced goes beyond cruel and into depraved.

I don't hold out much hope that these cops will be charged but it begs the question: just who should we turn our backs on?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
39. The problem is - we turn our backs too often.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:28 PM
Jan 2015

Have to make sure we push this thing to the proper pathway.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
42. Surveillance cameras
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:37 PM
Jan 2015

Who knew they were for watching cops. Their narratives typically have been believed until now. Makes a compelling case for body cameras.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
43. I challenge anyone to watch this video and not feel infuriated
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jan 2015

by what they're seeing taking place, besides the fact that they completely ignored the boy lying on the ground, they arrested his older sister for grieving, that is the only thing I can see she did wrong that got her arrested.

I'm fucking infuriated about this.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
46. I wasn't too sure what to think of this story until I saw video
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:43 AM
Jan 2015

That boy was killed because of the way the police approached the situation. They went in there acting as if they were soldiers in a war zone approaching a known hostile target. Had they approached the situation as police officers approaching a citizen of the community they work for, this would have had a totally different outcome.

 

Madmiddle

(459 posts)
48. We can't let this keep happening.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jan 2015

It's like Nazi Germany only these assholes don't even ask for papers, they just kill you. So, in a lot of ways it's even worse, because the only thing that will stop it is for citizens to fight back.

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