Saudi Arabia's national airline to introduce gender segregation after a string of complaints
Source: Daily Mail
Gulf media report that Saudia will keep men and women segregated onboard, unless they are close relatives.
The move follows a spate of complaints from male fliers unwilling to allow other males to sit next to their wives and other female family members.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2894229/Saudi-Arabia-s-national-airline-introduce-gender-segregation-string-complaints-male-passengers.html
Maybe with a curtain down the middle of the aisle...
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)and asked to wear a burkha.
Then no one will know if it is a male or a female passenger.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)They're into that "old time religion." We have a Christian church here in which women are not allowed to speak or ask questions. If they have any questions, they have to ask their husband or father at home and he will enlighten them on the word of god.
We also have a synagogue in which men and women have to sit in separate sections, which are divided by large curtains. The women can hear, but not see, the men praying. The men can neither see nor near the women because the women remain silent.
Tace
(6,800 posts)Two identical doors, right and left, on the front. I think they likely sat apart on either side too. There are lots of these little meeting houses in these parts. They were also used as schools during the week. One is my next door neighbor about a half mile down the road. Built around 1800 or so.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)A door on one side with "Boys" chiseled in the granite above the doorway and the same for "Girls" on the other side.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)there was a time secular schools also had separate entrances for boys and girls.
treestar
(82,383 posts)There is a Moravian graveyard. Tombstones for men are on one side and women on the other! Gotta keep them apart even in the afterlife!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)That's what happened to me last time, anyway.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1264&pid=5356
(For the record, I'm cool with militant feminists that are actually militant about actual feminism. Rock on.)
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)This sounds to me like a further support for the cultural idea that women are the property of the male in this part of the world. Other men can't look at a man's wife's face and enjoy it because his wife's face is his turf, his property, hence the veil. And another man can't even nudge up against his wife's physical space within chatting distance because that belongs to him, too.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Yet in the referenced thread...
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Instead of causing a ruckus on US airllines.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is Saudi Arabia Airlines we're talking about.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Nothing like a mutual hatred of women to bring old enemies together
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Haredim do have quite a lot in common with observant Muslims.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)The Hasids forced the city to close down the bike lanes because they didn't want to see women in skimpy clothing riding on public streets.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...and the clock keeps spinning backwards.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)religious nuttery still reigns supreme and basically I'm talking most religions..
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)brooklynite
(94,602 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Except for that whole financing 9/11 thing.
But that was just business.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Sam1
(498 posts)will not happen given the Roberts Court's decisions about freedom of religion.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)We shouldn't be allowing them to practice sex discrimination in our airports.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)At least when it comes to Saudi men.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)He said that leaving the country the women would come on in their burkas, etc. As soon as they left Muslim airspace, the women would go to the bathroom and come out in jeans and designer clothes, the alcohol would come out, etc. On the return trip, it was just the opposite. At a certain time, the women would re-burka and the alcohol would all be put away.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)(they hire only foreigners, because being a flight attendant is not considered a respectable profession for a Saudi woman).
She said the same thing, that as soon as they were out of Saudi airspace, the burqas would come off, to reveal the women in designer clothes, make-up, and fancy hairstyles. Nearly everyone would order drinks, too.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)It's a plane.
Rather than separate the men and the women, how about they separate the complainers from actual human beings.
Scairp
(2,749 posts)Will these people ever grow up and join the rest of planet Earth?
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)They're about 500 years behind us. We were doing the same shit as they are not that long ago. It wasn't that long ago, you could be burned alive for reading the wrong bible.
RationalMan
(96 posts)There are certain reciprocal benefits that alliance members give to their mutual passengers. So what happens when someone purchases a ticket on Delta from Detroit to Paris and connects to Saudi Airlines on to Jeddah in business class. That passenger is not going to pay a business class fare and not be able to select their seat from Paris to Jeddah. So will they allow them to reserve the seat but at the gate in Paris they will discover that they have too many men or women to be able to segregate and they are going to downgrade them to economy or deny them boarding?
This is why any form of fundamentalist religion creates havoc. Saudi joined the alliance because they thought it would help them in response to the successes of other Gulf nation airlines such as Emirates, Ethiad, Qatar, etc. The alliance would likely have preferred one of those carriers to Saudi but Saudi was what was available.
This could become very interesting if the alliance members deem Saudi to now not meet their membership criteria or that membership is actually more of a problem than a help.
msongs
(67,420 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not sure that one is going to work out.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....because of the way the Saudis treat women but she says it on a station that's partly owned by the Saudis.
Oh yeah, Ann. Point out OUR "hypocrisy".
Besides, not ALL Muslims are that way towards women. The ones the Bush Family love certainly are.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is it an exception more than a rule?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Other countries in the region are not nearly as fanatical. They have morality police.
You know,....Rick Santorum's old job.
niyad
(113,364 posts)other men to behave respectfully toward women.
makes me think of an old proverb "a man does not think to look under a bed unless he has hidden there himself."
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Travel to Dubai and the religions are separated, aswell as gender in some areas.