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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:25 PM Jan 2015

2 West Virginia police officers shot, wounded while stopping vehicle

Source: LA Times

By MATT PEARCE

Two West Virginia police officers were shot and wounded Thursday while attempting to stop the driver of a possibly stolen vehicle, an emergency official told the Los Angeles Times.

The Lewisberg, W.Va., police officers were trying to stop the vehicle after a police license-plate scanner reported the vehicle's tags as stolen, according to Donna Hinkle, administrative director of the Greenbrier County 911 Center.

"Neither one of their injuries, we’ve found out, are going to be life-threatening," Hinkle said, adding that one of the officers may have been shot in his bullet-proof vest.

When the officers tried to stop the vehicle, a man inside opened fire, Hinkle said. A second man in another vehicle, possibly traveling in tandem with the first vehicle, also started shooting at the officers, Hinkle said.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nn-wv-police-shooting-20150101-story.html

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2 West Virginia police officers shot, wounded while stopping vehicle (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
Guns provided by gun culture. nt onehandle Jan 2015 #1
It's a dangerous job philosslayer Jan 2015 #2
Actually, it is way less dangerous than a lot of other jobs. kath Jan 2015 #14
It's far more dangerous than most jobs. I served in the military 1972-1997. When I finished 24601 Jan 2015 #20
Nope. Not even in the top 10: Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #23
You should look a primary source data. Count up the career fields on the 20 pages of BLS Data. 24601 Jan 2015 #28
From the link I provided: Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #32
Read the rest of the Story, per capita rates, LE was #10 - one of the most dangerous, and 24601 Jan 2015 #33
Still very low, even with murder factored in. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #34
Damn. Glad they made it through the ambush okay. Cha Jan 2015 #3
The assholes shooting at the police have totally destroyed cosmicone Jan 2015 #4
No, they haven't, except in the minds of those eager to see the Brown/Garner KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #5
Actually they're totally unrelated incidents. George II Jan 2015 #7
I don't think so Bandit Jan 2015 #19
"I think criminals now believe there is a good chance they will be killed by police if arrested" EX500rider Jan 2015 #22
That has nothing to do with this story. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #30
+1 nt Live and Learn Jan 2015 #8
They look like your Cliven Bundy boys RandiFan1290 Jan 2015 #27
Well now Cops are gonna blow your brains out if you even flinch the wrong way during a stop 951-Riverside Jan 2015 #6
Did the officers shoot each other? Maybe they saw each reach for their waistbands. nt valerief Jan 2015 #9
yes, and they were in fear of their lives.. HipChick Jan 2015 #10
That doesn't fit the narrative here. JEFF9K Jan 2015 #11
Bad cops are endangering the lives of most good cops PatrynXX Jan 2015 #12
My ex-daughter-in-law in WV said something about them transporting dead bodies from NC. Rozlee Jan 2015 #13
Dead bodies found in truck of man who shot two police officers Petrushka Jan 2015 #15
Thanks for link. Glad 840high Jan 2015 #16
UPDATED: Bodies of a North Carolina couple found in truck identified Petrushka Jan 2015 #17
Thanks for the link with the complete reporting there: freshwest Jan 2015 #18
Just plain dumb luck for the cops to stumble on them... Historic NY Jan 2015 #21
You might characterize it that way. It required a data base, is what I'm saying. freshwest Jan 2015 #26
Maybe this explains things OldRedneck Jan 2015 #25
Sounded like a good idea at the time OldRedneck Jan 2015 #24
Most WV Troopers are fairly nice guys. hollowdweller Jan 2015 #29
Wow Termin Jan 2015 #31
More details ---> Petrushka Jan 2015 #35
Well, they caught 'em--wonder if they got any of it on dash/body cam? MADem Jan 2015 #36

24601

(3,962 posts)
20. It's far more dangerous than most jobs. I served in the military 1972-1997. When I finished
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jan 2015

training, Vietnam had would down. The average cop in the street during the same period faces more danger than my peers and I did. And when we deployed, we knew that we would face people wanting to shoot us. The average cop makes a traffic stop or is called to a domestic disturbance and has no indicators whether he/she is facing a person who may be armed and/or may be violent.

24601

(3,962 posts)
28. You should look a primary source data. Count up the career fields on the 20 pages of BLS Data.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0281.pdf

Yes there are some with higher accident rates. Very different than assholes gunning for you.

Law enforcement is more dangerous than most.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
32. From the link I provided:
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jan 2015

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' most recent figures, there were 4,693 fatal occupational injuries in 2011, 146 more than reported in 2010. The majority of these injuries occur in a handful of sectors representing the most dangerous ways to earn a living in the country."

Agriculture has higher fatality rates listed than LEO at your link. LEO is about on par with Maintenance.

24601

(3,962 posts)
33. Read the rest of the Story, per capita rates, LE was #10 - one of the most dangerous, and
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jan 2015

as the article points out...

"Of all the jobs listed, only police officer deaths include a significant number of murders. That is to say that no one is trying to kill fishers or loggers or refuse collectors."

http://criminologycareers.about.com/od/Career_Trends/a/Dangers-In-Criminal-Justice-Careers.htm

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
34. Still very low, even with murder factored in.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jan 2015

"In these occupations, the smaller number of workers greatly affects the fatality rate; one or two accidents can easily send the rate skyrocketing, while the actual raw numbers may be significantly lower. If we were to rank dangerous jobs based on raw numbers as a opposed to rates, the list would look like this:

Drivers / sales workers and truck drivers - 683
Farmers and ranchers - 300
Police and sheriff's patrol officers - 133
Industrial machinery repair and installation - 96
Aircraft pilots and flight engineers - 70
Roofers - 57
Logging workers - 59
Fishers and related fishing workers - 29
Refuse and recyclable material collectors - 26
Mining machine operators - 23"

Dead is dead. If you want to say it's a scarier danger to face a man with a gun than get caught in a winch or something, that's fine. That's a different issue though.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. The assholes shooting at the police have totally destroyed
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:42 PM
Jan 2015

the Brown/Garner narrative. Now cops will appear even more justified in killing civilians.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
19. I don't think so
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jan 2015

I think criminals now believe there is a good chance they will be killed by police if arrested so better to shoor first and try and get away. It is only going to get worse I'm afraid.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
22. "I think criminals now believe there is a good chance they will be killed by police if arrested"
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jan 2015

I suppose if they are real bad at math.....about 900,000 peace officers in the US....if they each only arrested one person a month, that's about a million arrests a month.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
30. That has nothing to do with this story.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 04:38 PM
Jan 2015

And I doubt that there any criminals dumb enough to think that they improve their chances of survival by shooting at the cops except those who are mentally deficient, which, sadly, many are.

Now, among the very small group of individuals out there who don't want to stop for the cops because they have a dead body or two lying around and might have difficulty rebutting the corpus delicti due to the habeas corpus, I suspect incidents of police brutality rank very low among their worries.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
6. Well now Cops are gonna blow your brains out if you even flinch the wrong way during a stop
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jan 2015

"Officer safety is paramount and all that jazz now TURN IN THOSE GUNS for a $25 grocery store gift card*"





*This only applies to poor minorities, the wealthy, angry white land moochers and white power militia members are exempt.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
12. Bad cops are endangering the lives of most good cops
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jan 2015

and NYPD seems to be almost all bad cops can't say that about others..

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
13. My ex-daughter-in-law in WV said something about them transporting dead bodies from NC.
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jan 2015

But, that may be local hysteria.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Thanks for the link with the complete reporting there:
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 04:39 AM
Jan 2015
If I read it correctly, it went like this:

The father and son came from Texas and randomly picked out a house in NC, where they apparently killed the couple, set the house on fire and stole their vehicle.

Why they decided to take the two bodies for a ride under a mattress in the trunk of the vehicle, who knows, but they crossed the state line into WV. After shooting the cops at a traffic stop generated most likely by those who found the house on fire, they shoot.

Then one steals another vehicle and runs off but surrenders. The other one got shot in the leg. The cops are going to be okay, or as okay as one can be after getting shot, and the father and son will get what's coming to them if found guilty of all of what the story has.

If there'd been no organization to act in this case in both states, they'd have most likely gotten away with it altogether, or else committed some more murders wherever they were going. They may have killed some people on the way up from Texas to NC, as well.

Whew...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. You might characterize it that way. It required a data base, is what I'm saying.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jan 2015

Not too likely that their sons would be able to institute a search, would they?

Nor have the authority to pull people over in their own state, much less another one in search of the killers.

Hope more comes out about the deadly tourists, but most likely the news cycle will forget it now. We won't even hear about the trial, unless there is a narrative the media wants to push.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
24. Sounded like a good idea at the time
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jan 2015

Let's see if I understand their reasoning:

1. Murder two people in NC.
2. Put their bodies in the back of my truck.
3. Attach stolen license plates to the truck.
4. Drive to WV, bodies still in truck, stolen plates on truck.
5. Shoot at cops while driving truck with bodies in back and stolen license plates.

"Hold my beer and watch this!!!"





 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
29. Most WV Troopers are fairly nice guys.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jan 2015

I've had contact with a lot of them and most are friendly and cut you a lot of slack.

I wasn't looking and went too fast on the way back from backpacking and got pulled over. The officer saw my packs and we got into a discussion about our favorite places in the woods. He only gave us a warning ticket. I was sad when later I saw this:

http://www.odmp.org/officer/21372-corporal-marshall-lee-bailey

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Well, they caught 'em--wonder if they got any of it on dash/body cam?
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jan 2015
The officers shot one of the men and arrested him, Hinkle said. The other man fled, ditching his vehicle in the woods about a mile away. A suspect was found after a resident called the police, Hinkle said.
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