Rudy Giuliani calls on Bill de Blasio to apologize to cops
Source: CBS News
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said current mayor Bill de Blasio owes New York City police an apology for creating "an impression with police that he was on the side of the protesters."
"Mayor de Blasio, please say you're sorry to them for having created a false impression of them," Giuliani said on "Face the Nation" Sunday. "You did create a false impression of them. Say you're sorry. Say you didn't realize. Say you didn't realize you have...a non-white police department, in terms of majority."
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On "Fox News Sunday" last week, Giuliani faulted the president for showing too much sympathy toward people protesting the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner at the hands of police officers.
"We've had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police," he said.
The Washington Post's fact checker gave his statement four Pinocchios, their marker of a "whopper" of a false claim.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-calls-on-bill-de-de-blasio-to-apologize-to-cops/
Just for Fun
(149 posts)Fuck off and go blow goats.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Gracie Mansion and he had to live with a big GOP donor and his boyfriend.
blackcrow
(156 posts)From the Wikipedia entry for Donna Hanover:
<<On the evening after announcing his cancer diagnosis, reporters observed Rudy Giuliani having "a romantic dinner" with Judith Nathan, the woman who would be identified as his lover.[15] Just one more week later, Giuliani announced that he and Hanover were officially separated at a press conference on May 10. Giuliani had neglected to tell Hanover either of his decision or of the press conference and moments later, with cameras taping her reaction, reporters at her residence apparently shocked her with this info and she was visibly distraught by the unexpected news.>>
olegramps
(8,200 posts)He was such a wonderful father that his two children wouldn't have any thing to do with him. His daughter even supported Obama in the election. He announced that he was leaving his wife on TV before even informing her. Plus he had other affairs through their marriage according to the gossip columns.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Did he apologize to Dinkins for helping to start a riot at city hall?
Did he apologize for bringing in a tank to evict people from their homes?
Did he apologize for destroying green space in this city?
Did he apologize to his ex-wife for so publicly cheating on her and announcing he was divorcing her on TV without informing her?
Did he apologize for putting the city bunker in tower 7?
Did he apologize for Bernard Kerik?
Did he apologize for those the police murdered and brutalized during "Giuliani time"?
The answer is NO!
Rudy please shut up!!!
inanna
(3,547 posts)I feel like I am living in the friggin' Twilight Zone.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Rude Rudy's in the twilight of his years.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He represented our nation in Iraq!
EIGHT felony tax and false statement charges!
A man of low character--just like his mentor Rudy....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kerik
Turbineguy
(37,349 posts)The first one to come across to communicate is the adult.
Oh, I forgot, de Blasio already did that.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)both to the mayor and to the slain police officers families.
The police need to apologize for their rude back-turning stunt.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)They should be apologizing to the families for the disrespect of turning the grief ridden event of their loved one's funerals into protests.
Every one of those who childishly turned their back to protest the Mayor's comments, showed nothing but disrespect for the families of the officers.
In my opinion these officers are a disgrace to their uniforms.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Fallen police officer acting like Westboro Baptist disrupting a funeral service, thing away the reverence which be given to the grieving family. Rudy will not get any respect from me. If the police would do their protesting as the other protesters then fine but do not show up and annoy families who are grieving.
Euphoria
(448 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Emergency command center at the bottom of a burning skyscraper?
olddad56
(5,732 posts)PatSeg
(47,516 posts)Another washed up republican trying too hard to sound relevant. No one really cares what you think Rudy, just go away.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)The minute he started milking 9/11 he was dead to me.
Happy to see him have to resort to shilling on TV.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)showed up late for the wake of Officer Ramos.
The Governor, several Representatives, and several former mayors showed up earlier and spent time with the family, but de Blasio showed up 15 minutes before the wake ended at 9:00 pm. In total, the wake lasted over 8 hours.
This was also the first day since de Blasio became mayor that he did not release his public schedule.
BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)You actually believe that???
Calista241
(5,586 posts)BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)I asked you if you believed it.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)running with it. Do i think it's an actual legit reason to get worked up? Nope. Do i think it's worth the publicity they're going through? nope.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Wait a minute, the service was done by 11:30 am ET. So, what time did the service start, 4:30 am ET in the morning. TOTAL FAIL....
And de Blasio is the MAYOR of NEW YORK....all of NYC. With such the Mayor has duties nearly every day, all day. He showed up on time for the service and to give a condolence speech at the service. He had spent time with Ramos family on the day of the incident and the DAY AFTER. So your point is?
Oh, you have no point.
Meanwhile, the disrespectful NYPD Officers under the "authority" is race baiter Pat Lynch, thought it was appropriate to pull a Westboro Baptist Church move at a service for a fellow fallen officer. You want to know who is DISGUSTING? They are DISGUSTING. End....of....Story!
Calista241
(5,586 posts)their respects. This takes place at the funeral home, typically the day before a body is interred.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)The Funeral is where the Disgusting Officers turned their backs. A Funeral is what took place on SATURDAY. As for a wake, it is not REQUIRED that anyone "show up" at a certain time, as long as they arrive before the closing hours of the body being displayed.
So, again....your point is? Oh, like the last time, you have NO POINT.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)I gave an answer that I found on the Internet. It sounded plausible, and was mentioned multiple places.
You can sneer at me all you want, but I'm not involved, all I was doing was trying to answer someone's question.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)The Disgusting Act of some NYPD Officers Protesting at a Funeral no less, of a fellow fallen solider. The action is inexcusable and their Commander Bill Bratton, believes the same...
"I certainly don't support that action," Bratton said on Face the Nation. "That funeral was held to honor Officer Ramos. And to bring politics, to bring issues into that event, I think, was very inappropriate."
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/police_commissioner_turning_ba.html
Hopefully, he will charge EACH OF THESE OFFICERS with Insubordination. We will see.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Someone must:
1. Fail or refuse to obey a lawful order given by a superior
Or
2. Use any abusive or disrespectful language or action towards a supervisor.
Does turning your back constitute either of those things? If Mayor de Blasio determines that it does, what is the punishment and does he have the political power and / or ability to enforce it.
I don't see how the department can issue 25,000 reprimands and have the reprimand actually mean anything. And the union would go apeshit berserk if they had some other more punative measure in mind. He can't just fire everyone like people here want.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Only 250 to 300 Corrective Actions Memorandums with stated charges need to be written, not 25,000. Where did you pull that figure from? What's your source?
Oh, our source is here:
"As de Blasio spoke, hundreds of officers outside the church turned their backs in a sign of disrespect. Some have said de Blasio contributed to a climate of mistrust toward law enforcement amid anti-police protests."
Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/27/police-officer-ramos-funeral-new-york/20934691/
HUNDREDS not THOUSANDS. Just for the complete correction because we would not want to spread false, made up from the air information on DU right Calista241 of a small number of actual posts.
Meanwhile, their Commanding Officer (i.e. BRATTON) who has already stated pretty publicly on FACE THE NATION the action by HUNDREDS not 25K Officers was his words VERY INAPPROPRIATE has all the authority necessary to charge the 250-300 officers with insubordination if he so choose.
WE....WILL...SEE.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)blackcrow
(156 posts)"I gave an answer that I found on the Internet. It sounded plausible, and was mentioned multiple places. "
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)poisons the debate, all aided and abetted and as predictable as a quasar.
Fucking media all in on a race war, it is no longer debatable.
And fucker is a fucking coward for not facing the truth of his 4 Pinnochio Washington Post lies about Obama.
"Giuliani did not respond to the Post's queries, but said on "Face the Nation" that the fact check was "substantially inaccurate" and that they missed a "big point" in the president's appearances with Sharpton."
What fucking big point, fucker, powerful black man meets with another powerful black man is fucking scary to you fucking flaming racists, right?
Three words for the hypocritical fascist fuckers...Bundy Ranch murders.
George II
(67,782 posts)When is he just going to fucking GO AWAY??
muntrv
(14,505 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)of 2 Las Vegas cops at the hands of Jared Miller.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)What a damn jerk.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Never apologize (even if you really are wrong).
Your critics will NEVER be appeased; they'll see the exploitable weakness and just keep on beating up on you.
And it's never really about apologizing anyway. It's about making your adversary do a Walk of Shame, so you can continue beating up on him.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Historic NY
(37,451 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)he's just trying to stay relevant and doing a terrible job. Fuck off Gewls
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)apologize to the rest of us for making us all dumber having to listen to you over and over.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)by the WaPo.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6007888
Mahalo inanna~
DinahMoeHum
(21,795 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Thus, the right of this country are all insane, all sick and twisted and demented...
sick sick fuckers
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Rudy took the side of the cops and Justin Volpe in that case and defended them. Of course, Volpe eventually confessed and pleaded guilty to sodomizing Louima with a broom.
and not a peep was said by Rudy for being wrong.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)identity theft protection?
The more I hear of him the more I think I would rather have a terrorist as a neighbor.
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Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)STFU!!!
Ramses
(721 posts)This is a guy, who a few decades ago, would have been calling for keeping schools segregated and supporting different bathrooms for blacks.
Rewind back a little and he would have been hootin at the base of a tree where a lynching was taking place.
This asshole is a lying racist piece of garbage
I cant stand his ugly face almost as much as Bush's
sakabatou
(42,159 posts)God I hate the guy.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Rudy is a reich wing racist POS!
rewinn
(23 posts)Did he used to be somebody?
Cuz he sure talks like a nobody.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)stupid he really is.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You and the other mouth breather offer mia culpas for taking up the oxygen...
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Why can't these old pols just go the fuck away once they're out of office? Why do they think they're still relevant?
And I think all this bullshit about people being told to hate the cops is just adding more fuel to the fire. But maybe that's what Giuliani and his ilk want.
Vinca
(50,279 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,513 posts)By Michelle Ye Hee Lee December 23
@myhlee
michelle.lee@washpost.com
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The Pinocchio Test
Giuliani has a point that there is growing animosity among protesters toward police officers. That may have contributed to the actions of individuals such as Brinsley. But the burden of proof rests with the speaker. We combed through Obamas speeches and can find no evidence of propaganda that everybody should hate the police.
Perhaps one could fault the president, as some conservatives do, for failing to more forcefully rebut violent demonstrations against police. But thats an absence of rhetoric. Instead, Giuliani suggested that the president actively launched and promoted anti-police rhetoric and that is simply Four-Pinocchio false. We would have liked Giulianis direct response and will update this column if he responds to our request for an interview.
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