US offers $5M reward for al Qaeda leader released from Gitmo
Source: New York Post
December 24, 2014 | 3:21pm
The Obama administration is scrambling to track down an al Qaeda terrorist released from Guantanamo Bay years ago, offering a $5 million reward for information on him and placing him on a global terrorist list.
Ibrahim al-Rubaysh was originally released in 2006 by the George W. Bush administration and put into a Saudi Arabian rehabilitation program. However, al-Rubaysh returned to the battlefield and now serves as a top leader with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula one of the most dangerous al Qaeda affiliates.
The case underscores the continued risks in transferring detainees from the controversial prison camp. Another four were released over the weekend to Afghanistan.
The Pentagon, though, insists that it continues to take precautions before releasing prisoners.
Read more: http://nypost.com/2014/12/24/us-offer-5m-reward-for-al-qaeda-leader-released-from-gitmo/
"Ibrahim al-Rubaysh was originally released in 2006 by the George W. Bush administration"
Where were John McCain and Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz when THIS happened????
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)douggg
(239 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Bucky
(54,027 posts)The article was describing the art classes as a half-assed solution in toto to the hardened philosophy of jihadism. It's a result of the Bush administration's approach to intractable problems: shuffle them off to someone else's desk and then proclaim claim the "mission accomplished" -- so this isn't really about the merits of art therapy. But I'll bet you could've figured that out on your own.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)such good training and recruiting camps.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)Of course, you could say that about the whole Gitmo situation.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)You charging me. good I'm gone.....
the ones they have left not much worried about them except that whatever they become , if they do become revengeful thats our fault. Torture begets torture..
Reter
(2,188 posts)Graham and McCain however...
delrem
(9,688 posts)There was never any attempt to distinguish guilty (of what?) from innocent (of what?).
Instead there was kidnapping. There was torture. There was murder. There was billions spent on war propaganda (what war?). There were black sites. There were war crimes on a vast scale.
Many many innocents suffered tremendous damage.
The guilty were never tried in a court of law. No stories were heard in a legitimate court.
The US fought an illegal war on false pretences, lying to world about its motives, killing hundreds of thousands and destroying whole countries, and nobody is accountable because the US is too powerful to stop. The US called its prisoners "unlawful combatants", pointing vaguely at "laws" that it didn't recognize as applying to itself, just so it could ignore the rules of war.
The war propaganda machine rolls on, funding increased.
It's an immense problem - far far and away larger in scope than one "al Queda leader who was released".
The US lost its moral authority in this business and is doing nothing, yet, to get it back.
Igel
(35,320 posts)While * was still in office a number of released Gitmo prisoners were released. A lot of (R) were against it. Most stayed silent. DU tended to regard opposition to their release in a negative light, and the Breaking News forum (more active back then than now) tended to not dwell on *'s attempts to reduce the # of detainees at Gitmo. The attitude was that Gitmo should vanish--try the detainees or release them. In many cases, if tortured the detainees should be released because there could be no trials.
Before long, though, a lot of the detainees had vanished. I vaguely remember some "investigative reporter" trying to locate a lot of them and failing to find a bunch. Some later turned up killing Americans in Iraq or, IIRC, Somalia, even though the countries involved were supposed to monitor them and keep them from engaging in such activities. Some turned up as bad guys in other countries. Most just vanished.
Sa'udi Arabia figured prominently in their vanishing, which provoked a fair number of jeers (and (R) embarrassment). So did Qatar. Oddly, so did Sweden and Albania and, if memory serves, Britain. We usually paid these countries or gave various concessions to get them to accept the Gitmo detainees. That was a big part of the news--how we bribed countries to take them. Currently we are just told that countries have taken them with no word as to what, if anything, was the payoff for the countries involved. Perhaps countries have just decided that the terrorism cards held by the currently held detainees are too stale to worry about.
When detainees vanished, the general response on DU was to mostly negative --and to blame * for creating the terrorists involved or to mock him for ... I'm not sure what, since the general view is and always has been that most should be released. (Although at the time, "tried or released" most naturally came to mind. The incessant resetting of the clock for trying them finally became so old that trying them was mostly forgotten or buried.)
For a number of (R), thinking in lock-step is as important as it is for some (D). However, in the case of recent detainees released there's the old fall-back of "Obama may have released them, but it was * that made them into terrorists." As though that actually absolves anybody from responsibility for their release if they do something wrong. The alternative possibility, that a fair number of them were picked up because they were already the sort of people that would be more than willing to engage in terrorism, is oddly absent. If they're bad, then * &Co. weren't t ultimately bad for having picking them up, which for many is reductio ad absurdum.
No, I don't have a solution. Most former have apparently vanished and a fair number have probably just been killed anonymously in various struggles in Pakistan, Afghanistan, or have found their way to fight the Shi'ite heretics in the Levant and ash-Shur, which makes for a suitable kind of denouement, as far as I'm concerned.